Blue Palasky 1 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Because every year these power freaks decide the outcome of a match and it's ridiculous! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howell79 1 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I have a question. I'm sure it has been hashed out before but I would like to see some opinions. There is a lot of talk about "taking shots" or not taking shots and getting hit with stalling. And I have read in the officials magazine that one way to be consistent with stalling calls is to "count shots". However, shots aren't the only legal takedowns. Some wrestlers are more gifted with other syles of wrestling. I know of some state champs who would not have made on "shots" alone. So what justifies all the emphasis on shots as they pertain to the stalling calls? I realize shots are what some call "high percentage moves" but they are not the only legal style of wrestling. Maybe we could have a double leg takedown state tournament. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mconn 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Well the way I see it a shot has to be set up and if the other wrestlers defense is really good maybe it will take a while to do that or maybe none of your leg attacks will work and you have to wait to get the guy on the mat in the second or third period. There are other wrestlers who like to set up a throw. I don't see why a wrestler should be forced to take a bad shot or attempt an off balance throw just to appease the ref. Come on refs can't you see the majority of Missouri fans, coaches and wrestlers are tired of this baloney. Give the fist a rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny_Vance 1 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I also heard N. Rallo is going to try to break his all-time record of 2' date='009 stall calls in one state tournament.[/quote'] Is that "Stands with a Fist" Rallo or "The Count of Monte Fisto" Rallo? I get them all mixed up. Senior is "The Count of Monte Fisto" and Pee Wee is "Stands With A Fist". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn Stevens 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE LAW 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Exactly, many kids have great moves such as duck unders or PA's these need time to set up succesfully Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fan21 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Exactly' date=' many kids have great moves such as duck unders or PA's these need time to set up succesfully[/quote'] I agree, and just because a duck under or a throw by is stopped by good defense, does not mean there was not an attempt at offense. Just because a wrestler does not finish a move, does not mean he is stalling. Too many refs think people are at state to watch them. It is the quiet refs that people don't remember well that are the good ones. That sucks to say. But, that is how it is supposed to be. You shouldn't remember anything a ref does, just the wrestlers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE LAW 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Calling stalling to early is a downfall due to the current officials Quote Link to post Share on other sites
purlerwrestling 1 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I watched the Division I Dual team nationals and saw Matt Zeits officiate. He shows he can be a great official. I just wonder why the these officials don't hit the big time NCAA guys for stalling 2-3 times a match. Lord knows college wrestlers are the most conservative there are (and you have to be if you ever want to win anything). I guess it would take a lot of guts to make that call in a big time Div I match!! Maybe all HS coaches should get a Cael Sanderson, John Smith, or Tom Brands mask to wear. This intimidation may be just what it takes to keep them from robbing the kids. If you can't beat 'em....scare 'em. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warren Haynes 241 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I watched the Division I Dual team nationals and saw Matt Zeits officiate. He shows he can be a great official. I just wonder why the these officials don't hit the big time NCAA guys for stalling 2-3 times a match. Lord knows college wrestlers are the most conservative there are (and you have to be if you ever want to win anything). I guess it would take a lot of guts to make that call in a big time Div I match!! Maybe all HS coaches should get a Cael Sanderson, John Smith, or Tom Brands mask to wear. This intimidation may be just what it takes to keep them from robbing the kids. If you can't beat 'em....scare 'em. do you know where i can get one of thoe masks by tomorrow 8) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StLouisWrestling 0 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I hope you all are ready for alot of stall calls at state bc the Rallo's were in TOP form at class 1 district 1 lets just say it was vintage Rallo they should be banned from even attending the state tournament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chickenchoker 0 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 we should have robots ref matches lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcupp 3 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 We shouldn't have robots as refs, but all the refs need to be consistent. That is the only problem I have seen this year. It is actually a little better then in the past years. other then the inconsistencies between the refs on the stall calls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fanatic 0 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Just getting back from state, I would have to say overall the reffing was good. The disappointing part is some of them want to be part of the match. Many were watching the clock and the score and were too quick to call stalemates to give the person behind a chance for victory. I saw multiple stalemates with both wrestlers on their feet and they were not even tied up. Can someone enlighten me how it is a stalemate when the wrestlers are not even in contact with each other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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