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There has been a lot of confusion on the implementation of Girls Wrestling at the high school level next year. Some people think it’s already been passed, that is NOT correct. The ballot was just opened yesterday and runs through May 1. We will know the results sometime around the middle of May.

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BALLOT QUESTION: Are you in favor of amending By-Laws 5.1, 3.29.6, 3.30.3.l to separate the currently co-educational sport of wrestling into sex-separated wrestling for both boys and girls, as described and explained in the Proposal and Background Booklet?

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PROPOSAL 18 - (Girls Wrestling) - (PASSED) - 202 FOR, 41 AGAINST

Amends By-Laws 5.1, 3.29.6, and 3.30.3.l to separate the currently co-educational sport of wrestling into sex-separated wrestling for both boys and girls.

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4 hours ago, jonathan said:

PROPOSAL 18 - (Girls Wrestling) - (PASSED) - 202 FOR, 41 AGAINST

Amends By-Laws 5.1, 3.29.6, and 3.30.3.l to separate the currently co-educational sport of wrestling into sex-separated wrestling for both boys and girls.

So is this final? If so, a couple questions. When would it begin and would all schools have to offer girls wrestling? Here in Tx, most if not all schools that offer boys offers girls as well. Both teams seasons run jointly. I think it’s a great idea, more folks representing the sport of wrestling the better. I’m sure not all teams will be able to fill all weights right off the bat, but I hope it picks up steam. 

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It begins for the upcoming season, but for two years girls can still wrestle boys, but will have a separate Districts and State division. After the two year period, they will have a separate division in the regular season. Schools won't have to offer a girl's team is my understanding. Most boy's teams can't fill a roster, so I am highly skeptical this is going to catch fire.

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Whats most curious is will the schools that can afford it, hire another head coach to coach the females? Seems logical to not put more work on current head coaches, but I know not all can afford or have teacher space for a couple more coaches to be added on. 

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MSHSAA GIRLS WRESTLING – IMPLEMENTATION – POINTS OF EMPHASIS

The Missouri State High School Activities Association (MSHSAA) has completed the voting process on the 2018 MSHSAA Annual Ballot. MSHSAA schools have voted to separate the co-educational sport of wrestling into sex-separated wrestling for both boys and girls. The following points of interest have been reviewed and will be used relative to the implementation of Girls Wrestling under the jurisdiction of the MSHSAA beginning with the 2018-19 school year.

1.) Implementation of Girls Wrestling: The proposed plan is to have a two year transition period that would permit girls the option of participating in both their school’s boys lineup and girls lineup during regular season contests only. After this two year transition period girls can only participate against girls at girls only competition. From the start of implementation of Girls Wrestling, the girls MUST participate in the girls postseason.

2.) Weight Classes: Weight Classes will be determined after weight assessments are completed and entered into the OPC at trackwrestling.com by deadline of November 14, 2018. The 2018-19 Girls Wrestling weight classes will be released via MSHSAA Broadcast email blast on November 15, 2018, just prior to the first allowable contest on November 16, 2018. The data from the weight assessments will be used to set the actual weight classes in an effort to achieve as much equal distribution in weight classes as possible. This process would be used during the first two year of sanctioned Girls Wrestling with permanent weight classes being established in the third year and beyond.

3.) Contest Limits: In order provide more consistency in language for contest limits between the boys wrestling and girls wrestling, our member schools voted on the MSHSAA Annual Ballot (April-2018) to move forward with allowing “competition dates” in the sport of wrestling as follows:
*Girls Wrestling – 20 competition dates, no tournament date restrictions.
*Boys Wrestling – 20 competition date, no more than 10 competition dates can be used for tournaments.

4.) Postseason and Qualifying Events: There will be one Classification for Girls Wrestling. There will be two district tournaments that will be held on Saturday-Week 31 of the MSHSAA calendar (February 2, 2019). Classification/District assignments for Girls Wrestling will be released on the same date as Boys Wrestling, November 9, 2018. The girls district wrestling tournament will be the weekend prior to the boys district wrestling tournament in order to promote a school’s coaching staff to give primary attention to the girls district tournament on a weekend that our state has very few regular season tournaments occurring for the boys. The girls district tournament will be the qualifying event used to secure the top 4 place finishers at each weight class. The top 4 place finishers at each weight class will advance as state qualifiers to the state championships. There will be a total of (2) district tournaments until participation numbers at each weight class or overall girls participation numbers dictate the need for additional district tournaments. The state qualifiers will advance to compete in an 8-person bracket at the state championships. The top 4 place finishers at the state championships will be recognized as state medalists. The Girls Wrestling State Championships will be administered at the same site on the same days that the current State Wrestling Championships are held, Mizzou Arena (University of Missouri). Changes to the State Wrestling Championships schedule will have to be made to accommodate rounds for the girls competition, more information will be announced at a later date.
District Seeding: Only girls vs girls matches during the regular season will apply to seeding at the girls district tournament.

5.) Season – Length of Season: The Girls Wrestling season will begin on the same first allowable practice date as the boy’s season, the first allowable contest date will be the same as the boy’s season and the state championships will occur and conclude on the same calendar date as the boys.

6.) Coaching and Practices: A MSHSAA member school who offers both boys wrestling and girls wrestling are permitted to use the same coaching staff to oversee both teams. Furthermore, both the boys wrestling team and girls wrestling team that consist of enrolled students from the same school or an approved Cooperative Sponsorship (Co-Op) may practice at the same time in the same practice facility under the guidance and leadership of the same coaching staff.

7.) Trackwrestling OPC (Weight Management, Schedules, Etc): Due to the fact that females will have a two year transition period by which they may participate in their school’s boys wrestling line-up and in their school’s girls wrestling line-up, all weight assessments for females will “INITIALLY” be entered into the OPC using the “2018-19 Boys Season”. Weight assessments for “female” wrestlers will be entered into the OPC prior to the deadline of November 14, 2018. On November 15, 2018 the MSHSAA will use a “Copy” feature in the OPC to copy all female weight assessment from the “Boys Season” over to the “2018-19 Girls Season” in the OPC. The “Girls Season” will be used to by coaches to post their school’s female only wrestling events/contests schedule and will be used to enter all Female versus Female match results. Mixed gender match results occurring at boys wrestling events/contests will be entered in the “Boys Season” in the OPC.

8.) Regular Season Competition (Opportunities): Most competition opportunities for girls wrestling will exist in the form of tournaments. Efforts will need to be made by our Wrestling schools to create competition opportunities for Girls Wrestling. If you host a regular season wrestling tournament and have the facility space to use multiple mats I would encourage you to consider adding a girls division. With that mind, there will also need to be consideration given to the fact that too many girls wrestling tournaments being offered on the same calendar date may result in a low number of entries at each tournament. In short, our wrestling schools need to communicate with each other and make sure that tournament competition opportunities for girls wrestling are spread out during the regular season. It may also be necessary to consider geographic locations of girls wrestling tournament opportunities each week of the regular season in order to increase participation number at each girls wrestling tournament during the regular season.

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The girls get 20 competition dates, just like boys, but as many tournaments as they want/need.

Weights will be decided after weight certification.

Girls District is the week before Boys, but State is at the same time.

The first 2-3 years, girls can wrestle boys until the post-season.  After that, they will be completely separate

 

Basically, the same rules as guys except for the number of tournaments and the post-season.

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Battle High School will be hosting a girls only tournament on January 5th.  We are calling it "The Wonder Woman". We can run as many as 8 mats if needed.  Winners will get a championship belt and the winning team will get a traveling trophy that will be returned every year and a plaque to keep.  We will look to expand to a 2 day tournament as numbers and interest grow.  If you are interested email Mike Wakim at mwakim@cpsk12.org

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17 hours ago, cmsu34 said:

So will districts and state be on different weekends, if not who will coach?  If so will schools have to compensate for the added duties?

This seems to be the part that proponents and those implementing haven't really addressed other than stating the boy's coaches will be the girl's coaches as well.  They really don't address the situations that this creates. Such as a staff with only two coaches, that now is forced to have a girl's team. So the expectation that an already small staff is supposed split in half and send one coach a piece to each tournament?

 

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17 hours ago, NCMC4life said:

This seems to be the part that proponents and those implementing haven't really addressed other than stating the boy's coaches will be the girl's coaches as well.  They really don't address the situations that this creates. Such as a staff with only two coaches, that now is forced to have a girl's team. So the expectation that an already small staff is supposed split in half and send one coach a piece to each tournament?

 

This would all be a school-by-school situation. Why would MSHSAA address staffing issues?

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I agree it should be a school-by-school situation, just like choosing whether or not to sponsor a sport should be a school-by-school situation. In this case schools that sponsor wrestling, essentially have a unfunded mandate imposed on them to fund another team.

As I mentioned previously a school may have to split a staff and send one coach to a boy' tournament and one to a girl's tournament, or hire another coach.

 

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7 minutes ago, NCMC4life said:

I agree it should be a school-by-school situation, just like choosing whether or not to sponsor a sport should be a school-by-school situation. In this case schools that sponsor wrestling, essentially have a unfunded mandate imposed on them to fund another team.

As I mentioned previously a school may have to split a staff and send one coach to a boy' tournament and one to a girl's tournament, or hire another coach.

 

Sounds like a school's staffing issue - you probably work at a small school? Does your school's basketball coach have to coach both teams?

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17 hours ago, mshsaaref said:

Sounds like a school's staffing issue - you probably work at a small school? Does your school's basketball coach have to coach both teams?

I bet they don't. But the actual wording from MSHSAA stated they set the date of Districts so that there wouldn't be a conflict between the boys' team and the girls' team. So it looks like MSHSAA is anticipating most schools having the same staff for both teams.

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19 hours ago, NCMC4life said:

I agree it should be a school-by-school situation, just like choosing whether or not to sponsor a sport should be a school-by-school situation. In this case schools that sponsor wrestling, essentially have a unfunded mandate imposed on them to fund another team.

As I mentioned previously a school may have to split a staff and send one coach to a boy' tournament and one to a girl's tournament, or hire another coach.

 

Will this be a good excuse for schools to drop wrestling altogether? MSHSAA probably anticipates that there will not actually be any teams just a couple individuals

at a few schools.

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1 hour ago, Warren Haynes said:

I bet they don't. But the actual wording from MSHSAA stated they set the date of Districts so that there wouldn't be a conflict between the boys' team and the girls' team. So it looks like MSHSAA is anticipating most schools having the same staff for both teams.

That's not entirely accurate. There are still tournaments the weekend of girl's districts. If the expectation is that this weekend is not a competition weekend for boy's then it is essentially shortening the tournament season by a week.

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On 5/9/2018 at 1:30 PM, NCMC4life said:

I agree it should be a school-by-school situation, just like choosing whether or not to sponsor a sport should be a school-by-school situation. In this case schools that sponsor wrestling, essentially have a unfunded mandate imposed on them to fund another team.

As I mentioned previously a school may have to split a staff and send one coach to a boy' tournament and one to a girl's tournament, or hire another coach.

 

I agree that this is the most challenging aspect to the addition of Girls wrestling.

Two schedules to monitor/coach with the same coaching staff. 

For C3 & C4 Programs, this may not be a problem.  However, for C1 & C2 Programs, this could be a problem to the extent that it spreads coaching staffs too thin without adding an additional coach.

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