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    Why would Fatima and B O be in different districts when they could ride the same bus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLBRUEM View Post
    Why would Fatima and B O be in different districts when they could ride the same bus?
    Better hope Sumner's bus driver's not behind the wheel...


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    If Springfield Catholic goes to D2 which make sense geographically, then somebody from D2 has to go to D1...

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    Default New teams since last shuffle

    Father Tolton C1-D2
    Springfield Catholic C1-D1
    St. Francis Borgia C2-D3
    Luthern South C2-D2

    Am I missing anyone? With two new teams added this year (and since last shuffle) to each C1 and C2, we could see a C1 school bump up to C2, and C2 to C3 and C3 to C4??

    Who is the bubble team? St. James? I would hate to see D1 lose their 10 state qualifiers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2112 View Post
    So maybe FT and BO (or Centralia) go to D1 and Fatima and SC to D2?
    Centralia has already been down that D-1 road. I'm sure there is a reason Centralia was bumped to D-2. It would make more sense to move Blair Oaks and Father Tolton to D-1. But remember, the word "sense" and MSHSAA don't usually mix.

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    Let the Parents be parents, the coaches be coaches. If there is an issue that needs resolved, the kids should be able to approach their coach and discuss it with them. It is part of making them grow up and be responsible for themselves. There will be times, when the parent may ask to be present during the discussion, but I believe it is up to the kids to be man enough to discuss whatever they need to with their coaches if need be.

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    Sidewinder, u trying to tell me something?

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    You said "coaches", nothing about what level of coaches. So while the topic of COACHES was up, I posted. This was just a problem we had within our program this year. I would agree that a wrestler, parent, coach conference may be needed if treatment of kids is the problem or another rare occurence, as far as work out partners, the coach obviously is the coach because he has a lot of knowledge, and he obviously wants to win so I can't imagine a coach pairing a heavy weight with a light weight.. weight differences will obviously happen at a small school but even a 40 lbs difference doesnt mean great, high speed drilling can't be done.

    My main thing with Parents trying to over rule coaches is when a parent is trying to keep his/her child from doing a move the way its taught, especially after matches/fall points being lost because of failure to do it the way the coaches teach it. from my GENERAL experience, A coaching staff usually knows best.

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    to coaches and parents

    This is a letter Kent Waters posted in the new thread Doc started under Parents, that was sent to him by Tony Purler years ago, I for one read it periodically as I need it myself to become more positive.

    I kept this from March 2003 it was written by Tony Purler.
    HE HAS THE MENTAL APPROACH THAT he continously shared GOOD STUFF.

    Getting strong in the positions all wrestlers get into and having a go-to move for each position is the most important thing right now.
    Here's an example: I know tons of moves for every position wrestlers get into. If I work on all those moves every workout, It's going to take years to get great at all those moves. In those same workouts, the wrestler who keeps it simple and perfects a couple go-to moves for each position will get better quicker. He will also not think as much, because there won't be so many options to process before he commits to looking to score.
    I think it's important I keep the parents informed as to what I'm looking to accomplish. It took years of losing and struggling for me to know what I know, and my main objective as a coach was always to coach the way I wish I was coached. I had great coaching, but there are things I wish I would have known when I was 28 that I'm exposing to all the athletes right now.
    Before the kids wrestle, and the nerves come into play, tell them to wrestle their match, score one point at a time, keep it simple out there. You've paid the price, you've worked harder than he has, you deserve it more. He doesn't train like you, now go get him! Things like this really help a wrestler to focus and gain some much needed pre match confidence.
    And while they are wrestling, positive feedback is important. I know that many times while I was in a tough match, I'd like to hear "You're looking good out there!"
    "Keep the pressure on!" "Get on the Wrist." That's it, nice takedown!" Comforting words from the coaches or parents in that mentally tough atmosphere exudes confidence, much more than barking shoot! take him down! I've even heard college coaches say "What the hell are you doing!" Coaches often feel that they need to bark out moves to hit to their wrestler every time they go out of bounds. But sometimes nothing's open, and the young man forces a move his coach said to do and bam, lost points. Telling the wrestler he's looking tough right now, or you're looking really good stud, helps a lot more than telling him what moves to hit.
    Lastly, focusing on POSITIONING more than moves as a coach helps more than telling the wrestler what move to hit. Things like "circle to the back leg", keep your head down, "control his wrist", work his head, etc. These kinda things SHUT YOUR OPPONENT DOWN, plus the kids use these positions as setups or positions to score from. Wrestling is about positioning, and scoring from the positions we're good at, and it is about confidence. So in knowing this, coaching on the sidelines becomes easier.
    After all those years of wrestling, my dad still hardly knows what a single leg is. Seriously, he doesn't. But in 1990, my brother Nick was getting ready to wrestle Sammie Henson, 1998 world champ, 2 time NCAA champ, and rival since they were 10 years old. Nick's warming up, nervous as hell, and my dad kept having small talk with Nick while he was trying to get ready. He even said "Hey where do you want to go eat tonight?" Nick finally told him to leave him alone, but before the match Nick thought to himself, "Man, he sure has a lot of confidence in me. He know's I'm going to win." And that in turn gave him confidence. He got pumped up at how confident dad was in him. Nick won, and by the way, we ate pizza that night.
    Sorry to ramble on, but it's tough to go out and fight against another guy, and confidence will take you a long way in this life. And positive words coming from the parents and coaches before and during the match does wonders for a persons mentality. Hope this helps, sorry for the type O's.

    Tony Purler
    Last edited by angus; 02-24-2012 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSidewinder View Post
    Just a comment.....does it really help out a parent/coach relationship when you get on here and air your dirty laundry. Im sure when your kid's coach is reading this he is just shaking his head and saying to himself ....."Why me?"

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