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    Quote Originally Posted by MLBRUEM View Post
    One of the best examples of a class act - I can think of occurred in a match between Brian Markway of Helias and a Very powerfull wrestler from St Charles West - Brian was Slammed
    but went to the center for the restart and then defaulted to the young man from St Charles West - at the time West and Helias were heated rivals and Brian was a returning State Champion. A great example of how to handle adversity with class and compassion in the heat of the moment.
    I agree. Markway received a standing O after the match for doing an honorable thing. I saw it happen and wasn't 100% it was an "illegal" slam, it was definitely a hard slam - Markway had to default down to 6th place. Luckett lost his next match (state finals) to Sean Miller

    If you remember, Markway beat Luckett in the state finals the year before (in '04).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLBRUEM View Post
    One of the best examples of a class act - I can think of occurred in a match between Brian Markway of Helias and a Very powerfull wrestler from St Charles West - Brian was Slammed
    but went to the center for the restart and then defaulted to the young man from St Charles West - at the time West and Helias were heated rivals and Brian was a returning State Champion. A great example of how to handle adversity with class and compassion in the heat of the moment.
    Conversely, the BS that occurred with the Brent Trickel/Scott Sader "slam" in the '89 semifinals is the exact opposite of a class act. Someone on here said they have this match on digital video.....time to upload it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noles_fan View Post
    The only given slam is when a wrestler is returned on his head imo. Everything else is a judgement call. Was there intent? Was there any other way to return him? Did it happen through the flow of wrestling?

    Looking at this video this is not a slam imo. Should the matched of been stopped when he was returned and obvisouly injured, maybe.
    thanks for your opinion. It was a slam as a defenseless wrestler's head bounced off the mat. he was picked up with his arms trapped. The other wrestler has a responsibility for the safty of said wrestler. I do not beleive it was done maliciously but still the same it was improper. Yes-I am biased because it was my son. But I wasn't biased when this exact same thing happened at the kearney duals to a odessa wrestler (twice in same match) and it wasn't called.

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    noles fan....just to clarify. Intent is not to be considered when calling a slam. It's not the officials job to decide intent at that very moment. The call is to be swift and instantaneous.

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    Can a slam be called on the wrestler in the bottom position? I remember a match at state several years ago between two medalists where the top wrestler was putting in the spurs every time the bottom wrestler started to stand up. The match (and the stand up) was stopped each time with a PD. Finally the bottom wrestler raised only to a four point base, and threw himself straight to his own back while keeping the top wrestler's hands locked. Of course the top wrestler was smashed between the mat and the bottom wrestler's back. The coaches were screaming for a slam (which was not awarded). Could that be considered a slam by the wrestler in the bottom position?

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    A slam can be called in any position......YES!

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    I enjoy getting slammed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bb View Post
    noles fan....just to clarify. Intent is not to be considered when calling a slam. It's not the officials job to decide intent at that very moment. The call is to be swift and instantaneous.
    Intent is always considered when I make that call. Its not 100% the deciding factor, but it is considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noles_fan View Post
    Intent is always considered when I make that call. Its not 100% the deciding factor, but it is considered.

    I am curious now, do you consider intent when you observe a full nelson being applied? How about a head scissors? These are two examples of other illegal maneuvers that should be called illegal immediately and the match stopped. If, in the officials opinion, the return to the mat was too aggressive, the match must be stopped immediately. The following penalty call could be any one of three things: 1) Unnecessary Roughness 2) Unsportsmanlike Conduct or 3) A Slam. The penalty is the same for all three, yet the only one that draws any question is the slam call. Notice that nowhere in there was there any consideration on what the wrestler's intent was. He either did it in your opinion or he did not and wrestling continues. Someone will always be upset in these situations if the call is made or it is not made.

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    well..a properly executed throw...90% of the time fits the criteria of a slam

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