What the Funk!?!?!?

[HipToss]

Ok this is getting way out of hand. I wrestle for howell and today at school not only were announcements made and letters sent home about staph but our meet tonite against Lafayette(Wildwood) has been canceled along with practice til monday. I saw last nite on the news that a lot of wrestlers are getting it, jack snow died from it, and entire wrestling programs are being canned. if this doesnt stop they mite stop wrestling all together

[MG_Grievous]

:-s

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Getting What?

[MG_Grievous]

Herpies, RP....herpies.

[MG_Grievous]

Oh ok, he edited.

Well, you can't screw around with that, or the whole team is effed.

[HipToss]

its not just us only one kid has it and i've heard kids from the zumwalts, libert, marquette, and other schools have it

[fudge tunnel]

ahhh........they'll be fine.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

I have to say that I've never seen it this bad. What is going on?

Disinfect those mats and take a shower!!!!!

[fudge tunnel]

Kids these days are just dirtier.

[faninfo]

You know that make this foam in can that you can put on to seal up your skin before wrestling at tournaments and such. It's not cheap but they sell it at large tournaments like the greco/freestyle ones during the off season. That way you don't have to worry as much about what the other guy might have.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

2 words

Bubble Boy

[howellfan]

This is not the first nor will it be the last time it will happen to any school. But from what I/ve heard Ladue had it and it spread at the Riverview tornament, which is why the Howell meet tonight and the FZW vs FZN meet was cancelled earlier in the week.

[howellfan]

HipToss,
I don't think Malaway would like a wrestler on his team to post on this site. Just be careful because there are a few other people who follow the Howell program on this site, and Malaway may find out.

[The Godfather]

HipToss,
I don't think Malaway would like a wrestler on his team to post on this site. Just be careful because there are a few other people who follow the Howell program on this site, and Malaway may find out.

I just talked to Malawey, and I'm sorry HipToss, but you're off the team. :shock:

Kidding.....I actually won't be able to tell him until tomorrow. :-)

[The Godfather]

2 words

Bubble Boy

I don't care who you are...that's funny right there. :lol:

[HipToss]

if he didnt want it to be public knowledge then why was a letter sent home to every single student at my school and school wide announcements were made

[The Godfather]

Don't get scared...he's only gonna kick you off the team. Either that or make you the designated shower boy to make sure everybody takes a shower after practice. :lol:

[howellfan]

I am just saying if you do post on here-I would not recommend it-just be careful what you say on this site

[gacfanski]

I always suspected FHHS was a front for a nuclear weapons program. Is that what's so secret, howellfan?

[howellfan]

Yes it is, there have been rumors that the team does go running to the nuclear waste dump. I hear the nuclear waste is giving the team strange diseases. :lol:

[obnoxio]

This staph shiat is some series stuff...

Some of us old timers were chatting about this staph-stuff at Hickman.

Couple of observations...

1. The mats aren't being cleaned as often as we cleaned our mats back in the 60's and 70's. Mop the d@mn mats people.

2. Too many street shoes on the d@mn mats! You people are walking in dog shiat outside and then you walk into the gym and walk on the mats. Stay off the mats please!

3. Take a d@mn shower kids! In fact, take 2 or 3 a day!

4. Wash your d@mn clothes kids!

5. If you get a cut put something on it. Don't show off your wound like a badge of honor, treat it and cover it!

Staph is serious shiat, be careful.

[Wrestlers Dad]

Just to add to what obnoxio said about cleaning mats, showering etc. I know for a fact that some high school wrestlers leave from wrestling practice, change into their work clothes without showering, probably come home tired after a day of school, practice, work and who knows when they finally DO take a shower! Let them take off the last 15min of practice so they may take a shower, they must do a BETTER attempt of cleaning these mats and maybe make showering mandatory? Use the skin foam before during and after practices! Just some insight and thoughts. I know there probably is no real solution but we all need to start somewhere, and improve and add to what we are already doing or not doing! :?

[ivan robison]

How about this guys when I came here to Sikeston I actually had kids quit because they had to take showers, I had to throw a fit to get the showers fixed, they had no hot water and the AD said we have never had kids shower before after practice they shower when they get home, their football team does not shower and had several kids with ringworm at the end of the season (they could not understand where it came from). One of my kids is doing a science fair project on the bacteria on our mat; it is amazing the results, even after the mats are moped every day.

[Someone]

If it is staff? This is no joking matter. It transfer very easily through cuts especially. It is highly contageous and can live for years on something. If you get it, you can be in the hospital for many days on an IV antibiotic until it is cleared up. I am speaking from experience. I contracted this from one of my jobsites (I believe) and had to go in for surgery to remove the infected area in four locations on my body and had a nice stay in the hospital for a six days. One area removed on my arm was 1" in diamter and 0.375" deep and two other areas (Chest) were 1/2" X 1/4". If I had let it go longer they may have had to remove the arm. ThIS IS NO JOKING MATTER.

Parents and coaches do not let your kids wrestle with this.

The infectious disease doctor informed me that several professional teams have had staff infection outbreaks. The issue was resoved by, hospital stays, keeping up personal hygene, using soap dispensers (not bar soap), wash towels after every use and clean areas where infection has been with a bleach solution. Such as wrestling mats.

Cleanliness is the key. After you wreslte a match, wash your hands and face with a true antibacterial soap.

Sorry about the spelling.

[TDC]

They mentioned it again on the news tonight just prior to Frank Cusimano doing a long segment on some of the areas high school basketball games. I think these meaningless games got more coverage than the state wrestling tournament. St. Louis needs an ex-wrestler for a sports announcer. Otherwise the only press the sport will get is negative.

[JustAMom]

I am glad it is being taken seriously. Any and every precautions should be taken as no one wants to see anyone seriously ill or not be able to compete. I am also very glad that my son's school (coach) has always been very proactive. They have always taken all the precautions and are now even showering after an away dual meet before going home. I hope in the future that all the teams will be required as our has always been and that these measures are not negotible. If a wrestler suspects that they have are they are getting a skin infection, please don't wrestle, until it is treated. Reactions are different. Someone might not be as lucky and come down with a life or limb threating strand. Please be responsible.

It is kind of sad that this is the most press coverage that wrestling has ever gotten on this side of the state. This is the time that the wrestling community bonds together and does what it takes to control this problem. I applaud the coaches and AD that are taking this seriously and are doing everything they can to keep it contained. Best wishes to all of our wrestlers out there and lets make sure everyone gets their chance in a few short weeks to compete.

[stillman]

In addition to the precautions mentioned above, there should also be a method for the wrestlers to clean their shoes before every match. Whether it is using towelettes, a spray and paper towel, a box to wipe their feet in, etc.

The wrestlers walk around in the bathroom, outside, the beachers, etc. if they used something to clean their shoes I think it would help as well.

[obnoxio]

A very good point stillman.

[Tigerbait]

Here's a story by the post-dispatch on this sudden development.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... 22staph%22 (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/education/story/F6694BBF468ABBB68625710200586C43?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22staph%22)

[mlundy]

This is all no-brainer stuff poeple. Staff infections do kill. Look up MRSA on the 'net. Wrestling and football are the most prone sports to contract staff and it's killer cousin, MRSA.
We had very good reasons to wash and clean the mats often (including during tourneys), shower at school before we went home, wash our practice clothes and equipment back in our day. Those reasons are just as valid, if not more so today, what with the treatment resistant strains of infections.
Coaches, administrators, parents - everyone has to get back to the common sense basics. Make and enforce policies that ensure clean environments for our athletes. Wash the mats between every round. Keep non-participants off the mats. Force wrestlers to wipe feet before taking the mat.
Everyone's seen the floor of the school bathrooms - 4 year-old Jimmy and 94 year-old Johnny couldn't care less if they hit the urinal! And every one of our wrestlers are standing in it and walking right back on the mat!
This is a big issue. It will get bigger before it goes away. Let's get something done about it before lives are negatively impacted, more than just lost duals or tourneys.

[fudge tunnel]

Everyone's seen the floor of the school bathrooms - 4 year-old Jimmy and 94 year-old Johnny couldn't care less if they hit the urinal!

.....and 33 year old Fudgy!

[The Godfather]

Yes it is, there have been rumors that the team does go running to the nuclear waste dump. I hear the nuclear waste is giving the team strange diseases. :lol:

I still twitch and glow in the dark at times...

[The Godfather]

This is all no-brainer stuff poeple. Staff infections do kill. Look up MRSA on the 'net. Wrestling and football are the most prone sports to contract staff and it's killer cousin, MRSA.
We had very good reasons to wash and clean the mats often (including during tourneys), shower at school before we went home, wash our practice clothes and equipment back in our day. Those reasons are just as valid, if not more so today, what with the treatment resistant strains of infections.
Coaches, administrators, parents - everyone has to get back to the common sense basics. Make and enforce policies that ensure clean environments for our athletes. Wash the mats between every round. Keep non-participants off the mats. Force wrestlers to wipe feet before taking the mat.
Everyone's seen the floor of the school bathrooms - 4 year-old Jimmy and 94 year-old Johnny couldn't care less if they hit the urinal! And every one of our wrestlers are standing in it and walking right back on the mat!
This is a big issue. It will get bigger before it goes away. Let's get something done about it before lives are negatively impacted, more than just lost duals or tourneys.

As far as showers are concerned, I can vouch for Howell and several other programs in that their athletes are required to shower after practices. When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices, so I'm kind of suprised that this is happening now with the precautions that are being taken.

I agree 100% with mlundy that I think the problem is cleaning wrestling shoes prior to stepping on the mat. I've been guilty of it myself in the past and I (along with every other wrestler at tournaments) wears their shoes all day long, regardless of where they are going. Until we get that taken care of, I think wrestlers will pick up all kinds of diseases.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices.....

:smt104 :smt078

[MG_Grievous]

[quote="The Godfather":44e28] When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices.....

:smt104 :smt078[/quote:44e28]


Put me down for a stare-n-puke too. :?

[sticker762]

this stuff is no joke my first year in college we had a outbreak in the room and I got the funk then that got infected with staff and put me in the hospital for two weeks and ended my season. We had to close down the room for a week

[MG_Grievous]

this stuff is no joke my first year in college we had a outbreak in the room and I got the funk then that got infected with staff and put me in the hospital for two weeks and ended my season.

What was her name?

[ambercino]

I think we need to list what schools are infected to help protect our wrestlers. Do we know which schools or which wrestlers are infected?

[d_seago]

All of them are at risk. There are good hygiene practices to correct it. If you are in a tournament with a team that has had someone with it do you not wrestle.

MSHAA should make it mandatory to shower, home or away, dual or tournament no matter what. That would slow this and stop alot of other problems.

[MG_Grievous]

MSHAA should make it mandatory to shower, home or away, dual or tournament no matter what.


Is the ref going to supervise this?

I know a certain clown who would call dibs on the girls' locker room.

[howellfan]

I think we need to list what schools are infected to help protect our wrestlers. Do we know which schools or which wrestlers are infected?

Most schools should inform the other school(s) that there is staph/ringworm going around in the room. That is the reason FZW vs FZN and Howell vs Lafeyette were cancelled.

[d_seago]

The refs don't have to watch. I think that the coaches should supervise their wrestlers to make sure it happens.

[MG_Grievous]

I think that the coaches should supervise their wrestlers to make sure it happens.

Do they need to watch to make sure they wash properly, and not just rinse off?

[Fred McMurray]

Ambercino, regardless of your school, it is a safe bet that some kids on your school’s team are already infected. Check the local paper for a current listing of acknowledged schools, but that does not include schools that have just had recent outbreaks, nor the schools with infected kids that have not yet been diagnosed.

Staphylococcus (“Staph” or “Staff”) is an airborne bacteria that is everywhere. Most people have immune systems that overcome the bacteria before an infection starts. Wrestlers are grinding much of their skin surface into sweat-soaked clothes or directly onto a mat where staph bacteria have fallen, creating abrasions that allow the bacteria into the body. If the victim’s immune system does not detect the bacteria before it colonizes, the bacteria colonizes (that is, multiplies rapidly). When the immune system kicks in, you get various reactions, such as boils, fevers, and other nasty things. See this link for a little more detail:

http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections ... occus.html (http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections/bacterial_viral/staphylococcus.html)

There are laws prohibiting disclosing medical information on an individual. See the form regarding disclosure that you are offered any time you get medical help for details.

As for current staph infections at schools, this is getting a lot of attention across the U.S. and internationally. Some very nasty strains of the bacteria resistant to antibiotics have developed over the last few years. The World Health Organization is involved in the effort to find suitable treatments, but that is a long-term effort that won’t help this season’s teams very much.

While wrestlers have a high risk of getting infected, other sports are very vulnerable, too. Football is notably at risk, because nobody bothers to mop down the field before competition, and getting tackled is a great way to rub bacteria into a fresh abrasion. My kid got infected on his lower quadriceps during CROSS COUNTRY practice with an antibiotic-resistant strain a couple of years ago. The doctor said sweatpants cause minor abrasions that allow the bacteria to colonize, and also noted that staph infections are very frequently misdiagnosed as spider bites. We were fortunate that the infection did not get into his knee joint, or amputation may have been required. Look up Robert Wadlow, the “Alton Giant”, if you want to see the alternative to amputation.

I know the schools in my area are bleaching the mats and walls daily, and the kids I’ve talked to take showers right away after practice, but the teams are still having outbreaks of staph and ringworm. If this is too worrisome, a parent can take the kids out of sports. The other option is to recognize that all sports have serious risks, and just do what you can to minimize the risk…have your kid wash thoroughly, and shower often!

[d_seago]

MG,
You are a little too interested in the boys in the showers.

Even if they just rinse they are heading in the ritgh direction. Hopefully some would use soap.

[The Godfather]

[quote="RP-in-Nebraska":28b00][quote="The Godfather":28b00] When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices.....

:smt104 :smt078[/quote:28b00]


Put me down for a stare-n-puke too. :?[/quote:28b00]

You guys are dorks. I meant, nobody showered at the high school...you would take a shower after you got home. :roll:

[The Godfather]

Some very nasty strains of the bacteria resistant to antibiotics have developed over the last few years.

From what I've heard, alot of the problem is that the kids are building an immunity to antibiotics, so to speak. Doctors prescribe antibiotics for just about everything now, so when strong antibiotics are required to kill staph, the antibiotics aren't working because the body is used to them.

Just an observation that I've heard...

[MG_Grievous]

MG,
You are a little too interested in the boys in the showers.

Even if they just rinse they are heading in the ritgh direction. Hopefully some would use soap.

Where I was going with this, was if MSHSAA passed something like that, they would be putting coaches in harms way. Man, woman, midget, or whatever, it's a liability to "make sure" kids shower. It's just asking for trouble in today's sue-happy society.



Edit: Spelling.

[MG_Grievous]

[quote="MG_Grievous":34500][quote="RP-in-Nebraska":34500][quote="The Godfather":34500] When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices.....

:smt104 :smt078[/quote:34500]


Put me down for a stare-n-puke too. :?[/quote:34500]

You guys are dorks. I meant, nobody showered at the high school...you would take a shower after you got home. :roll:[/quote:34500]

We may be dorks, but we're clean dorks. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/mg_grievous/Emoticons/geek.gif

[Fred McMurray]

Godfather,

I used to think that it was our bodies that were becoming resistant to antibiotic treatment, too, but it is the bacteria that are resistant. Please see http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articl ... taph.shtml (http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/04_01/Staph.shtml) for an example of staph mutations that are drug resistant. These strains are examples of ones that survived the antibiotic treatments used over the last half century, and are currently treated by combinations of antibiotics. That, plus a lot of prayer.

If you have a kid that gets one of these strains, you have a lot of incentive to learn all you can about such things. I know that by experience!

[JBolin]

Have you noticed, Many Yrs. ago most schools hosting Tourn. would clean the mats several times throughout the tourn., (before and between rounds). You don't see that as much now. Usually before the tourn. each day and that is about it. Maybe we need to go back and take a few more min. between rounds and clean mats more often during a tourn. It may not help, but it sure isn't going to hurt any either!!!!!!

[C2Rankingforfun]

Yes,,,it is true that we did clean more often than is done today, and if you wore your street shoes on the mat (BESIDES COACHES) you would have received a butt chewing. These days it seems that everybody wants to cram as many teams in a tournament as they can possibly squeeze in a gym, and to save time shortcuts are being taken, one of them unfortunatly is cleanliness. I would rather spend an extra hour in a gym if it ment that fewer kids are going to get the "FUNK". I believe that if the teams are not willing to take the lead themselves, that MSHSAA should mandate procedures for the protection of the kids.

[jhva]

Allot of this also goes back to the practice room. Most schools use the same mats for practice as tournaments, little league, PE class, etc. Kids put their shoes on in the locker room and then go to practice, gym class, etc. We need to have better policies throughout the entire season, not just tournament day. It's allot like the head gear rules. Head gear is required in a match, how many practice rooms require head gear?

[mlundy]

Here's where I throw in my "It's just common sense" point again. Some folks get it and act on it and things improve. Others ...

1) Mats need to stay as clean as possible.
a) Wash them before every competition and practice and between every round in a tourney. Basically, every chance you get!
b) Provide a place for wrestlers, referees and coaches to wipe/disinfect their feet before they step onto the mat. Require them to use it!
c) Enforce a policy of keeping non-participants off of the mats.

2) Antibiotics have to be taken UNTIL THEY ARE ALL GONE. Read that one again. Not just until you feel better. Nothing is more important. Parents, enforce it! It is the #1 reason we have treatment-resistant strains of staff today, besdides perhaps antiboitics prescribed when they are not needed.

3) Athlete's have to keep themselves clean.
a) TAKE A SHOWER AT THE SCHOOL after every practice and competition. Buy a bottle of the pump soap and put it in your bag. Parents and coaches are not being responsible if they are not requiring showers before the athletets go home - enough said!
b) Keep your clothes and equipment clean. Wear practice clothes only once! (Did I actually have to say that to anyone?). Wash everything after one wearing, including towels. Wipe down headgear, shoes with Kenshield, etc.

4) Parents and coaches, learn to recognize early signs of the infections common to our sport and get your athlete to the doctor, get it treated properly to minimize infection spreading to the rest of the team.

One last point, watch out for Fudge Tunnel in the bathroom. Apparently he needs a target to aim at! :lol:

[RP-in-Nebraska]

[quote="MG_Grievous":c9934][quote="RP-in-Nebraska":c9934][quote="The Godfather":c9934] When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices.....

:smt104 :smt078[/quote:c9934]


Put me down for a stare-n-puke too. :?[/quote:c9934]

You guys are dorks. I meant, nobody showered at the high school...you would take a shower after you got home. :roll:[/quote:c9934]

No you are! Quitsies, no anti-quitsies, no startsies, triple stamp, no erasies, touch blue make it true.

[The Godfather]

One last point, watch out for Fudge Tunnel in the bathroom. Apparently he needs a target to aim at! :lol:

I don't think that's all you have to watch out for when fudge (or RP, for that matter) is in the bathroom...

[The Godfather]

[quote="The Godfather":a267a][quote="MG_Grievous":a267a][quote="RP-in-Nebraska":a267a][quote="The Godfather":a267a] When I was in high school, which wasn't that long ago, nobody took showers after practices.....

:smt104 :smt078[/quote:a267a]


Put me down for a stare-n-puke too. :?[/quote:a267a]

You guys are dorks. I meant, nobody showered at the high school...you would take a shower after you got home. :roll:[/quote:a267a]

No you are! Quitsies, no anti-quitsies, no startsies, triple stamp, no erasies, touch blue make it true.[/quote:a267a]

You can't triple stamp a double stamp, you can't triple stamp a double stamp, you can't triple stamp a double stamp Lloyd...

[d_seago]

Thanks for the Edit. As far as supervising their students, I don't see a major issue. Most of the wrestlers shower now, the rest need to.

[PROFESSOR PAIN]

THE STUFF IN A CAN IS CALLED KINSHIELD AND IT IS WORTH EVERY DIME.

[microtech]

Ok so I have followed this thread and I have just a few comments. Staph is one of the most prelavent microorganisms and lives on everything. General overall hygiene is key to reducing the chance for infection. Not only is important to shower frequently and definintely after wrestling in practice or a meet, handwashing is a very important aspect as well.

Staph is abundant on the skin and I personally know of six people who contracted staph infections stemming from bug bites this summer. It's everywhere. Not just in the wrestling rooms.

Many have pointed out the need to finish all antibiotics in order to fully eliminate the infection. I will go one step farther and say that NO ONE should be allowed on the mat until the are 100% over it. Not just 24 or 48 hours of antibiotics. The mats do transfer this organism but skin to skin contact is more likely to cause transmission.

[grapplemonster]

Are any teams goingt o lose kids for districts or are most of them out of the woods?

[MG_Grievous]

Right now on ABC, there's a program on about MRSA (a variation of staph) in the locker rooms.


....that didn't last long. :?


Here's a link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Primetime/ ... 908&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Primetime/story?id=410908&page=1)

[MG_Grievous]

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

http://prepsports.stltoday.com/ssi/prep ... enDocument (http://prepsports.stltoday.com/ssi/prep/stories2006.nsf/wrestling/story/BEE9CDDCFCC883FB86257108005C872B?OpenDocument)

[wrestlefan19]

There was a whole news story on tonight dedicated to staph and the howell central tournament...not the wrestling but the staph issue there
I did notice that FHC did a real good job of cleaning the mats after every round....aND I DID NOTICE A FEW CANS OF KiNSHIELd

[Fred McMurray]

More info on "superbugs" in the Post Dispatch, and how to control outbreaks.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... 22staph%22 (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stcharles/story/6ECB2C2F2BAEA6C586257124000DC78C?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22staph%22)

"At any given time, up to a third of people carry it on their skin or in their noses. About 1 percent get infected with the antibiotic-resistant type." Kinda makes you want to get a nose piercing, doesn't it? :^o