top 103 wrestlers

[Turk123]

who do you think would do good at 103 and if there are any good wrestlers coming up to look for. Because most of the people who were at 103 will not be back except for vito and ashley.

[doug]

where are vito and ashley going?

[techfall02]

i could see Lloyd being back at 103 or Steyer. Vito and Ashley will probably be back at 103. I don't think Ziegler will be back at 103, but he was 103 at Brute Nationals, so you never know.

[ARM BAR]

Incoming freshman - Kyle Bradley and Mac Bailey will make some major noise at state .

[wrestlefan19]

Bradley has already beat Bailey so he will prbly make more noise

[ARM BAR]

Bradley has beat Bailey a grand total of 1 time . Bailey has beaten Bradley a number of time's , some close some not so close . Kyle and Mac are both great kid's . Lot's of luck to both i hope they finish FIRST and SECOND .

[Randy B]

Mac and Kyle are each others biggest fan! They respect and encourage each other because they know that it makes both of them better. Our summer programs give our kids the opportunity to compete as teammates that takes them beyond in-state rivals.
There are a lot of tuff kids out there that could be 103 or 112 next year. Remember there is a big difference in body maturity between a Jr. or Senior 103-112 than a 14 yr old freshman.

[backstep]

what grade is vito in and dose he want to wrestle in colledg . and if so dose he know that the smallist class is 125lbs

[Louden]

what grade is vito in and dose he want to wrestle in colledg . and if so dose he know that the smallist class is 125lbs

He is going to be a junior and I am sure he is aware of the college weight class.

[wrestlefan19]

ohhh it hurts....

[obnoxio]

Vito is a junior and is weighing in this summer around 135lbs. He knows what the college weight classes are. Sheesh....

[Greg]

I am pretty sure Vito weighs 115-120 natural weight. He wrestled 105 for Freestyle.

[wrestlefan19]

he definitely looked a little small to weigh 135..

[howlowcanyougo]

Vito doesnt weigh 135

[obnoxio]

Sheesh, lighten up fellas...

I got my info from his girlfriend a couple weeks ago.. So she was off by a few pounds...

[obnoxio]

I'm a dork.

You guys are talking about Vito K. I'm talking about Vito I.

Carry on.

[wrestlefan19]

#-o

[lucky103]

I think Brandt Loyd of Joplin hs will come back at 103 and will be better this coming year

[obnoxio]

No doubt Loyd is good. His fifth place finish last year was a great accomplishment. 103 will be loaded next year....

[lucky103]

I have wrestled loyd before an he has yet to realize what he can really do when he sets his mind to it

[thegreatc]

lucky103

whats ur name and where did you wrestle. I just want to know.

[lucky103]

shaun reilly an i wrestled for glendale

[backstep]

i would guess the top 3 would be krische ,loyde ,and tyler

[ARM BAR]

backstep , Who is Tyler ?

[Greg]

Vito will be at 112 this upcoming season. IMHO two of the favorites in this weight class in Class 4 will be Mac Bailey and Kyle Bradley. Both of them wrestle at the National Champ Level (Bradley was second and Bailey was third at USA Nationals this past Spring) and both of them are many, many time All-Americans. I would be surprised if either of them finished out of the top three in February. Other top freshman will be Ryan Banning, Cody Tyler, Taylor Bolin, Jake Waterkotte, Chase Houdaschelt (sp.), and Zach Meury. I am sure I am probably forgetting a few at Class 4. All of them are threats to place this upcoming season. [I am aware that Bolin and Houdaschelt are both at FZW and that Tyler is at Oak Park with Bailey, however you never know who may end up at 103 and who may end up at 112]

[Jay]

Mac at 103 would push out Cody Tyler, leaving Joe Green @ 112? and Scott O'Donnell @ 119???
as Randy said, they'll probably bounce things around a lot through the season, who knows where kids will be by state.

[wrestlefan19]

Vito will be at 112 this year.

he was 105 at Nationals wasnt he?
105-103 shouldnt be hard at all

[Greg]

I talked to his dad and to him at Fargo, and both of them said he will be at 112 next year.

[wrestlefan19]

Bummer were he to stay at 103 he would repeat easily IMHO but he is awful small so not sure about 112 at all

[Greg]

IMHO if he were at 103 I would call it a toss-up between Vito, Bailey, and Bradley. I might give Vito the slight edge based on his very strong summer showing, but Bailey and Bradley are both right there also. I have a pretty good perspective on all three of these wrestlers since my two have wrestled Mac and Kyle many, many times in matches, and have wrestled Vito many times in practice including this summer. I think all three of them are great, outstanding, you name the superlative, and I know if either of my two face one of the three in high school they (meaning my two) better bring their 'A' game or they will get their head handed to them. Also I think Vito will be one of the favorites at 112 regardless of his weight.

[wrestlefan19]

your two are?

[Greg]

Matt and Nick Lester

[wrestlefan19]

ok they will go to Eureka correct?

[Greg]

Correct.

[wrestler'08]

wendall jones is probably going 103 again because he only wieghs about 120. i don't see anybody beating him if he goes 103, but anything can happen on any given day. if not he'll make noise at 112.

[Greg]

Even if Wendall Jones is at 103, I would still favor Bailey and Bradley although Jones is quite capable of winning it. If he is down at that weight 103 is going to be a very tough weight class.

I base my favoring of Bailey and Bradley in this weight class on the following factors:

1. Coaching/training. Mac is wrestling for Oak Park i.e. for Mayab, Smith, etc. ...enough said. Kyle has Purler, his dad who is very knowledgeable, and a very good high school program. Kyle also has high marks in this area.

2. Weight not being a factor/strength. If Jones does come down from 120, and Mac and Kyle were below 105 naturally, then I would favor Jones. However, I believe Bradley is already in the 106-110 range, and my guess is that Mac is at least approaching 103 right now. By season's start my guess is Kyle will be in the 110-115 range, and Mac in the 108-112 range. Mac is naturally very strong (very strong!), Kyle is also fairly strong for his size. Weight/strength shouldn't be a factor.

3. Experience. My guess is that Mac and Kyle both have at least 500 matches under their belts and probably much more. Both of them have wrestled, and done well, in brackets nationally that are much harder than anything they will face in high school. Mac for example has beaten David Taylor from Ohio, a feat not many other kids can say they have done (almost none actually). Taylor is one of the top freshman in the country who was just a double champion at Fargo.

4. Precedent. When the wave of national little league Missouri wrestlers started hitting high school a few years back, there seemed to be some doubt as to whether they would continue that success in high school. After watching kids such as the older Bailey, Nay, Gagliano, Wolfrum, Grahams, etc., etc. I think that this level of kid has proven themselves. Mac and Kyle are both national level wrestlers. From what I have seen, this level of kid in most cases only loses at state when they hit a more mature/older national wrestler, or a very, very experienced senior, or another national wrestler close to their age that is just better.

5. Summer wrestling. Mac and Kyle both wrestled all Spring/Summer at such things as USA Nationals, Schoolboy Duals, etc. Kids that wrestle extensively in the Spring/Summer in my opinion have an advantage.

6. Comparisons. I know this weight class fairly well, and have many comparison points/common opponents. Based on what I have seen in the Spring and in the past, Mac and Kyle both compare very favorably.

7. Little league. I do not think the titles that kids win in little league mean anything when they get to high school. However the experience a kid gets in little league wrestling nationally in tough brackets, and state tough brackets does matter. Both of these wrestlers have lots and lots of experience in this regard. Additionally the weight classes they wrestled in were some of the toughest nationally and some of the toughest in the state. I have been to most of the big tournaments nationally, and around this weight class/age group (at least how it was together in little league...recently some of these kids have grown a lot) Missouri I think is deeper than every state except Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Anyway those are my reasons for favoring Mac and Kyle this upcoming season. I just didn't want anyone to think I was basing my assessment on some emotional issue like the fact I personally like both kids and their families.

[techfall02]

is anyone forgetting about vito???? I definately seeing him being 103 because he has wrestled 105 all summer.

[wrestlefan19]

well someones been paying close attention

[Greg]

Techfall2 I talked to Vito and his dad at Fargo and they both said he was going 112. If he was at 103 I would agree that he would be one of the favorites.

[three1/4]

i heard bailey was 110 and that bradley cut from 109 for schoolboy nat

[wrestlefan19]

110/109-103 is nothing

[three1/4]

i know i was telling greg that they where biger than he thought

[Randy B]

I still stand by my original statement...Remember there is a big difference in body maturity between a Jr. or Senior 103-112 than a 14 yr old freshman. Mac and Kyle both will still be 14 years old long after the State tournament is over. Right now I know Kyle has other things on his mind

1. Adjusting to High School and the schedule.
2. Grades (my requirements are much tougher than MSHSAA)
3. Football
4. Getting bigger and stronger
5. Staying healthy

After the above he will worry about...
1. Grades
2. Wrestling
3. Making the line-up (His coach will tell him what weight he would like
him to wrestle)
4. Staying Healthy

You seem to be forgetting about kids like Loyd from Joplin, Davis from Rockbridge, Thornton from Hickman, Hudson from Lafayette, Steyer from McCluer North, Houdashelt, bolin, or little Benanatti from Zum. West, Toon or Clark from Blue Springs, etc.

[Randy B]

At Schoolboy duals June 16 Mac weighed in at 99.4 and Kyle at 102.6 At Kids Nationals June 29 Kyle weighed in at 102.4 and never missed a meal. This week Kyle weighed 113 at the beginning of the week and 107 yesterday. (both weigh ins were with shorts, t-shirt, and shoes) I'm sure the weight fluctuation may have something to do with the heat and football practice, or maybe he is already cutting weight!

[jhva]

Already cutting ROTFLMFAO

[Greg]

I am not forgetting about those other kids, they are definite medal contenders, but in my opinion Mac and Kyle are still the favorites. I am also basing my assessment on the fact that my two have wrestled kids like Butler, Krischke (practice only), Steyer, Fargo competition, etc. this summer, so I have a pretty good idea about how the maturity factor plays in. Since I have a good comparison factor between my two and Mac/Kyle, I think I have fairly good idea about how Mac and Kyle will do in Class 4. Every kid you named except Lloyd I am familiar with. One wildcard could be Thornton. If Jake remains injury free, and gets back his form of a couple of years ago, he could be someone who could beat Kyle or Mac and win the title. I agree Jake at his best is very good and a definite champion contender.

Every year incoming freshman abilities are somewhat devalued so I am not surprised that this year is not any different. In all honesty freshman are probably less devalued now than maybe 3 or 4 years ago because of how kids like Conn, Nay, O'Donnell, Gagliano, etc. have done their freshman years. I think there is some truth to the fact it is hard for a freshman to come in and dominate or win at the mid to upper weights, and even weights like 119 and 125 (although if I remember right the champion at 125 last year was a freshman), however I can tell you that if Mac and Kyle are above 110 they won't have any difficulties at 103. If they were 101 or so then that would different, however I am pretty sure that is already not the case.

One note, adjusting to the schedule will not be a problem. Frankly a 8th grade national tournament schedule is tougher than a high school schedule (I am talking overall not particular tournaments...obviously tournaments like Lee's Summit or High School State are tougher).

[Greg]

I just wanted to add a wrestler I think I left off previously, Zach Meury. If Zach can get his weight to the 105-110 range he will be right there with everyone else. I just read on another thread that he is indeed at Fox. He will be a great lower weight for them the next four years.

[three1/4]

yes hes not bad and inprested me at the dules . but 84 to 110 is a big jump

[WARRIOR DAD]

Yes, Zach is enrolled and attending Fox. As for his weight, Zach cut from 95 to wrestle @ 84 for the Cadet Duels. It was a struggle to get down, but it was worth the effort. Zach knows that to be successful this year he needs to get bigger and stronger. He finally has hit a growth spurt and has been hitting the weights pretty hard.Currently weighs around 104.

Also wanted to say that Zach had a great time wrestling for the dual team. Belated thanks to all coaches that put in their time to make it a great weekend. Jeff Bolin, if you get a chance, could we get a copy of the duals from you.

[BHOOK]

Not much has been said about Ryan Banning (at CBC?) If Mac B and Kyle B are at 12 for state. I would put my $ on him at 103. He is tuff as nails and strong as an ox.

[MG_Grievous]

Ryan Banning

Any relation to Susan?

[Greg]

I am pretty sure I mentioned Ryan earlier, however since this thread has been going for a while he is well worth mentioning again. I know Ryan had a fantastic summer, placing very highly at NHSCA in Virginia. Ryan is a definite threat at state and if indeed Kyle and Mac go up (which for state I don't think will happen but who knows) then I agree he will be right there with all the other favorites. LOL I agree Ryan is strong as an ox. He also is a very dedicated kid and if hard work was the only criteria he would probably be a four time state champion.

I do want to add that I do not want to slight either Meury or Thornton compared to Bailey and Bradley. Zach has been smaller than this group for a long time so it is hard to judge how he matches up, however Zach has the heart of a lion and if he is even strength, even weight he will be very tough for anyone to beat. I think the key for him will be his size compared to the other elite 103s once state starts. Jake Thornton takes a back seat to no one also, however injuries (and his size last year) have really limited him so far in high school. Jake has both the skills and the heart to compete with anyone in this bracket, and if he stays injury free will be one of the co-favorites along with other previous mentioned kids.

Class 4 103 has the potential to be a very competitive bracket.

As a footnote to an earlier post, I was told that Wendall Jones weighed as much as 127 this summer. If so,my guess is that he will end up at 112 not 103.

[Louden]

I just wanted to add a wrestler I think I left off previously, Zach Meury. If Zach can get his weight to the 105-110 range he will be right there with everyone else. I just read on another thread that he is indeed at Fox. He will be a great lower weight for them the next four years.

Hey Greg, is there anyone else you want to add to the list for the favorite 103 guy? At this rate by next week you can't be wrong! You would have added the name of every good wrestler around this weight class!

[three1/4]

can zach beat jake and how did jake do this summer

[dave]

103/112

Freebersyser or Samples

[Greg]

Darth is there a problem with giving some very good wrestlers some press? I said early on that I thought the favorites were Mac and Kyle, however there are many good kids in this weight class. There will probably be ten kids with legitimate claims to the top six spots. In my opinion, if all of these kids stay at 103 which at this point appears likely, 103 will be pretty deep. I think what people are going to find out about this freshman class is that it is very deep at the lower weight classes. This class has been doing very well at national tournaments for a number of years. This class and the ones above them and below (with some young juniors thrown in), have a national runner-up finish at Schoolboy Duals last year, and a national championship at Cadet Duals this year. With that being the case, wouldn't it seem reasonable that there are a lot of good wrestlers to talk about? Frankly I am happy that there are weight classes not dominated by one or two great kids, but wide open with many good to outstanding kids. That is a sign in my opinion that Missouri overall is progressing to the next level as a wrestling state.

As a side note, great to talk to you again Darth. Please keep me up to date on Northwest.

[LoseWeight-FeelGreat]

I know jones may not be seen in many summer tourneys and what not but i know that kid works hard all year long. hes getting better everyday. he will be at 112 next year and i know that he will be a contender no matter where he goes.

[gbmem]

i think vito weight around 122 -125 he has alot to cut to go 103 -112

[gbmem]

i think vito weighs between 125-130

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Did he gain 5 pounds last night?

[Jadams]

I wrestle for Marquette and in my honest opinion look for Trevor Bunch to make an impact this year at 103. Trevor is a good wrestler who is handicapped he honestly is absolutley massive if trevor had legs he could easily weigh 189 or 215, trevor is a good wrestler that worked out hard and trained hard this summer and can bench 275+ who will weigh in at the 103 weight class look for him this season.

[Turk123]

if i am correct didnt trevor wrestle 112 last year. I could be wrong but i saw him at a few tournaments last year wrestling 112

[Jadams]

He is wrestling 103 i spoke to him today

[trev913]

Hello all...

I am Trevor Bunch. Yes, I do plan on going 103 lbs. this year. Right now, though, I'm hanging out at or just under 112 (I weighed myself yesterday and came in at 111). So, for the first few meets, probably until right before the Cape Central Tournament, I will stick around 112. For a meet or two preceding the CC Tourney, I'll be trying to wrestle 103 just to get a feel for it. From there on out, count on my normal weight to be at or below 103.

:)

[QuIcKpIcK05]

well i know Lloyd of joplin and he is going 112 for now and he wants to go to 103 it depends on how his body reacts to him cuttin weight i think he will go 103 just my opinion he will be more competitive at 103 ....i think he has lots of potential with his second year with the new coach who works wonders he will surprise alot of people ........

[WRffan]

what about zach meury is he goin in as 103 if so then hes someone to see

[WrestleDude]

Zach better have put some weight on if he is gonna bang witih the other 103 pounders this year. He is probably the smallest of the group and that could be a factor.

[gbmem]

i really think hes weighing closer to 128

[Warren Haynes]

I just wanted to add a wrestler I think I left off previously, Zach Meury. If Zach can get his weight to the 105-110 range he will be right there with everyone else. I just read on another thread that he is indeed at Fox. He will be a great lower weight for them the next four years.

How right you were Greg.