Best wrestlers on their feet last 25 years non state champs

[Loethen]

The best wrestler on the feet post seemed to to be really biased towards sate champs and rightfully so. For the most part state champs are better on their feet. However, who were the best non state champs.

I am biased towards Helias so I will throw some names out first:

Jeremy Loethen
Jake Wadley
Rob McCurren
Mark Lock

Non Helias:

Rob Gardner (Warrensburg)
McCormick (St Clair)
Caswell (Fulton)
Fowler (Han) I can't remember if he won state his SR year or not.

[fudge tunnel]

Throw Damon Brown (Warrensburg) on there as well.

[The Godfather]

Ben Garner from Francis Howell.

[indiancoach]

Mike Zucharello from Pacific. Holds Pacifics takedown records. 163 in a season. 403 in career. Placed 6th three times, always seemed to get some sort of injury before or during state.

[cardsfsc]

Ouch that hurts Combat...I beat one of your boys in the finals!
BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOo/HHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS

Heck and I was beginning to think you Saders weren't all that bad:)

[tsu86]

Joe Herrera - St. Joe Central

[Louden]

Merrick Meyer

[fudge tunnel]

Tim Harris

[The Godfather]

oooh, Merrick Meyer is a good one. Hard to believe you can take 3rd as a freshman and not ever win a state title, but he was a takedown machine.

[underhook]

Shepard Pitman

John Sonderregger

Al Morgan

[Loethen]

cards:

Which one did you beat

[deepfat]

cards:

Which one did you beat

I'm sure no one here has ever heard of him but there was this kid from Union named Steve Weatherly ('91-'95, 103-125) that was obscenely good on his feet. Funny thing is, he beat the likes of freshman Charlie Rallo (convincingly), Kevin Bonebrake ('94 state finalist from Rolla), and a laundry list of other state medalists but was always hurt right before State. What a shame, though, he was probably the best 3A 119'er up until he snapped a rib before districts in '94.

[underhook]

Al Morgan - best athlete to never win a state title

[cardsfsc]

Falatico...we tangled four straight weekends that year. Conference, district, sectional, and state finals.

[oxman]

Al Morgan - best athlete to never win a state titleI'm pretty sure that Alfred Morgan won State as a Junior.
Then, he lost to Pat Jansen as a Senior.
8)

[Loethen]

Falitico was my wrestling partner he was 130, I was 135

[Stellar]

Cliff Bayless from Warrensburg was very impressive on his feet. I think he graduated in 1999. I'm not sure if he ever won state. He had amazing footwork.

[fudge tunnel]

Cliff Bayless from Warrensburg was very impressive on his feet. I think he graduated in 1999. I'm not sure if he ever won state. He had amazing footwork.

He won state in 1999. His footwork wasn't too impressive in the state finals in 1998.

[ncmcalumni]

jamar hayes of moberly.

[warrtiger]

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[underhook]

Thanks ox i didn't have my state book to look it up.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

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[cardsfsc]

Combat....all I know is I wrestled Falitico at 135 my sr. year, graduated in 1991. It was the same year I think Underwood made the finals at 140.

[Loethen]

I graduated in 90. I was at 35 that year

[MG_Grievous]

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[RP-in-Nebraska]

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[eagle1]

Mark Sansone

[Kelly Malloy]

Matt Parn of Brookfield

[Shoootah]

Bayless beat Wadley in 99 in OT...............If Wadley had,nt taken out Passley in the semi's he would have the crown

[northco]

Gary Brooks had over 600 takedown in his career and didn't start wrestling until he was a freshman.
others off the top of my head:
Devon Feager
Jeremy Wright
Cedric Brooks
Ben Garner
Demerius Thomas

[bleachercoach1]

I THINK CLINTON WON THE TEAM TITLE IN 1991 HAD 16 GUYS IN THE FINALS

[SG4U]

i THINK YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING TOO MANY vOLLEYBALL GAMES.

[fudge tunnel]

I THINK CLINTON WON THE TEAM TITLE IN 1991 HAD 16 GUYS IN THE FINALS


uhhh........................ya

[cardsfsc]

Bleacher....stop before they kick us off.

[Lubes03]

T.C. Brown Fort Zumwalt West

[Louden]

T.C. Brown Fort Zumwalt West

I remember TC. Strangest thing... in the state quarterfinals he beats Peterson 14-8, and then gets beat by Peterson 15-0 for third... :shock:

[Warren Haynes]

T.C. Brown Fort Zumwalt West

I remember TC. Strangest thing... in the state quarterfinals he beats Peterson 14-8, and then gets beat by Peterson 15-0 for third... :shock:

Same thing happened with Conger and Anyan at 171 Conger's sophomore year.

[Louden]

Same thing happened with Conger and Anyan at 171 Conger's sophomore year.

Yeah I remember that too.

[Wyatt Pickering]

Gary Brooks had over 600 takedown in his career and didn't start wrestling until he was a freshman.
others off the top of my head:
Devon Feager
Jeremy Wright
Cedric Brooks
Ben Garner
Demerius Thomas

I wrestled Demerius Thomas in the semi-finals my soph. year and he was very good on his feet so I will have to agree with North Co on that nomination.

[eagle1]

Kelly Thomas from St. charles took Demarius Thomas down to his back, I think in their state match. But after the first period, Kelly pretty much just had to hang on.

I always forget about kelly, because he was so poorly conditioned and placed 3rd twice, but I think he always got the first takedown. He had amazing strengh for a guy who was fairly lanky. If he got his fishhooks behind your knees, you were going down.

[Hal McNeal]

Mark Winningham
Jeff Oswald
Bobby Danner
Morgan Oswald
Eric McNeal
Troi Morris
Rusty Foster and
Several Richmond kids from early 1980's that Ken Simmons had. Some were State champion's while some were medal winners

[Hal McNeal]

Jesse Grant
David Keene
Paul Kopp
Danny Alnutt
Several of the Jackson kids the last few years

[fudge tunnel]

jeeeez Hal, you just going to list all of Boonville's placers over the years...? :wink:

Where's Vince Moehle? :P

[Hal McNeal]

I would have named the Richmond kids but couldn't remember who were champions and who weren't. I didn't want to leave anybody out.

David Crinagin
Patrick Pearson
Jimmy Spake David Keene and Danny Alnutt Richmond kids
Rusty Foster
Morgan Simpson
Dale Wilhite
DJ Smitz

Vince Moehle wasn't the takedown artist the others were, but his physical nature helped him along. He had that farm boy mentality too. :-D

The Jackson Kids Eric coached and I couldn't remember all of their names, but coach Wachter does a heck of a job with them too

[fudge tunnel]

David Cringan
Patrick Pearson
Rusty Foster
Morgan Simpson


these guys were all state champs.

[Hal McNeal]

See......you remember better than I do. The plaque that I got Sat. Said that there were 4 state champions out of the little league that we started at Richmond. Scott Hamilton, Eric Pierson, Rusty Foster, Morgan Simpson were four that were in the first little league group. But I wasn't sure about the others.......25 years has been along time......and the names get blurry from time to time. But that's why we have you there Fudge.

[Hal McNeal]

Kremer Ramply and Brock Howard. Also James Love.


Hickman Kid I coached that had good take downs was Phil Arnold, but he won it twice.

[mconn]

Josh Moyer
Adam West

[Wharf]

Here are a few names
Jason Hovis
Mickey Wright
did Mark Sansone ever win it?

[eagle1]

did Mark Sansone ever win it?

No! but I thought Hovis did.

[ambercino]

Sansone didn't win it...I think he lost to Demitrius Jordan....God Bless Him

[fudge tunnel]

Sansone lost to Kenny Clark. Clark beat Jordan in the semis that year.

[Missouri Minutemen]

Anthony Willis 8) (WC) best opponets senior year Scott Schotzman (PC)& Tim King (FT)

Jason Walsh (WC) best opponets senior year Steve Kerr (STL) & Jason Heslop (BS)

Dean Downs (WC) best opponets senior year Tim Davis (MN) & Micha Gardner (PH)

Brondon Thomare(WC) best opponets senior year Joe Fisch(STL) & Greg Arbuckle (LS)

Jim Brewer (T) best opponets senior year Ricky Williams(OP) and Shawn Terryberry (FO)

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Dean Downs (WC) best opponets senior year Tim Davis (MN) & Micha Gardner (PH)


I believe Micah Gardner went to Oak Park not Park Hill.....unless there were two.

[fudge tunnel]

Micah Gardner went to Oak Park........Micha Gardner went to Park Hill

[Missouri Minutemen]

Oak Park is right.

[oldtimer]

Steve Dunkle Lex 1979/80

[fudge tunnel]

Steve Dunkle Lex 1979/80

.....and congratulation to Steve Dunkle for NOT make the "Lexington's Most Wanted" list......

[oldtimer]

Steve Dunkle Lex 1979/80

.....and congratulation to Steve Dunkle for NOT make the "Lexington's Most Wanted" list......

Fudge Tunnel

You like stats....Send me your name or the year you wrestling and what school and I'll post your great accomplishments on the forum for all wrestling with to judge your skills and accomplishment in wresting!

:lol:

[fudge tunnel]

Oldtimer-

I'm not sure if you know where I was going w/ that comment. It was actually a compliment. Do you even know what the "Lexington's Most Wanted" list is? You need to settle down a little bit.

[oldtimer]

Oldtimer-

I'm not sure if you know where I was going w/ that comment. It was actually a compliment. Do you even know what the "Lexington's Most Wanted" list is? You need to settle down a little bit.

Maybe you could enlighten me on the "Lexington's Most Wanted" list. I been around for a while and I've never heard of it.

So, which of the former CMSU Wrestlers that are high coaches did you say was your high school coach? Barbarick -ray-pec; Mayabb - Oak Park; Offield - Odessa; Knapp- Winnetonka; Steverner - Hazaelwood Central; Stockdale - Knob Knoster; Griem - Excelsoir Springs; Griffith - Parkway South; Erneste - Park Hill; or Hammer - Liberty?

This is a great web site and a lot of coaches and athletes follow it. However, it seems lately that it's heading towards a place with too much BS and running good people away from posting.

[fudge tunnel]

So, which of the former CMSU Wrestlers that are high coaches did you say was your high school coach? Barbarick -ray-pec; Mayabb - Oak Park; Offield - Odessa; Knapp- Winnetonka; Steverner - Hazaelwood Central; Stockdale - Knob Knoster; Griem - Excelsoir Springs; Griffith - Parkway South; Erneste - Park Hill; or Hammer - Liberty?


....none of the above.

Lexington's Most Wanted included (incomplete list, but some of the highlights)....

Darren Gordon
Jeremiah Johnson
Jimmy Halterman
Layne Christian
Larry Brooks
Drue Christian
Trent Christian
Jason Peterson
Jimmy Markley

......all of whom have been arrested and served time. You know Les Christian has to be proud.

However, it seems lately that it's heading towards a place with too much BS and running good people away from posting

ummm.........like what?

[oldtimer]

Those are the only coaches that CMSU official media guide for 2005-2006 lists as coaches. Is your old coach still in coaching!

I don't keep up with these stats from Lexington! You better not let Steve Dunkle find out you put him on this list! I don't think he be too pleased.

Don't get me me wrong! I not pointing the finger at you, but, during the course of the last week I been told of several high school coaches that don't post to these forums anymore, due to bad jokes or inappropriate comments towards them or their program. Most likely from kids that couldn't measure up when they wre in school or folks taking the High School "Rival" thing to far, under the cloke of user names.

This is a great vehicle for Missouri Wrestling and I wouldn't want it to turn into a fool's forum were true fans and coaches can interact. People have told me as recently as this weekend that they won't post because of the types of regular response that are posted in a mean or hateful manner.

[fudge tunnel]

Those are the only coaches that CMSU official media guide for 2005-2006 lists as coaches. Is your old coach still in coaching!

I don't keep up with these stats from Lexington! You better not let Steve Dunkle find out you put him on this list! I don't think he be too pleased.

-he's an asst. coach now.

-As long as Steve Dunkle didn't/doesn't commit any major crimes.......he stays off the list. :D