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wrestlefan19

11-18-2005, 09:29 AM

according to MR. warner Eric will be 119 again....also um FZW is good but should we really be ranking two kids from FZW in one weight class?
130
1 Michael Gagliano Ft. Zumwalt West
2 Dylan Joiner Oak Park
3 KC Pescaglia Hickman
4 Joey Frank Northwest
5 Josh Schumacher Jackson
6 Sean Kelly Francis Howell Central
7 Joey Muenster Vianney
8 Zach Flaxbeard Ritenour
9 RJ McCravey Ft. Zumwalt West
10 Kris Kuhn Park Hill South
I didnt know we were ranking JV guys...
Dickerson is out
I doubt gags is at 130 and I am hearing nasty rumors he may not wrestle?
anyone got anymore on this?
also someone posted a while back that mike tracy may chase lococococococococococococococococococococococo anything to that?
i imagine they never wrestled but ill take brazzle over Flavin
Im told Newbold is in the 175 range
also I think kenny stewart should be a lil higher than 8 or if you are going solely on performance at state then put him hm since he wasnt eligible

just my thoughts
btw just kidding at 130 the rankings are appreciated and pre-season rankings are pretty much a guessing game no matter how you look at it
nice job :smt038

Ranking Committee

11-18-2005, 10:31 AM

WF19, thanks for the input.

Without specific current input, the wrestlers are ranked in a weight class as described in the header. You will note some changes from the input on PM and the forum in general. If a wrestler was ranked prior to state but didn't qualify for whatever reason (ie: Stewart or McCravey), they are included. It is difficult to fit someone into a new bracket with no head to head results, example Brazzle.

Ranking is certainly a guessing game to some extent. The ranker last year, still possibly the primary ranker this year, did an excellent job. This thread was intended to provide input for him and others involved in the collection of data and required subjective considerations. I am hoping we can get more, PMs are checked. If you are a parent or fan that follows a particular class or team, your input is valuable, please send it. The committee is all of us.

Most important, when the season gets rolling, don't forget to post results.

fanatic

11-18-2005, 05:38 PM

TJ Schieber did not go out for wrestling this year at Blue Springs. Hope he changes his mind.

Joplin_Wrestling09

11-19-2005, 09:09 AM

Brandt Loyd

Jacob Guernsey Joplin

Jessie Stevenson

That is all the state qualifiers i can think of from joplin

swmo fan

11-21-2005, 10:03 PM

Is Sadler from Joplin returning this year?

He was a qualifier as a soph at 189 when Caputo beat Conger, but didn't compete last year.

Anyone know if he'll be back?

QuIcKpIcK05

11-21-2005, 11:34 PM

iam really close with the team and i havent really talked about him i just lost alot a respect for him as a teamate last year ...he use to be one of the boys but he made some dumb choices..and really hurt the team last season and this year last year joplin reallly needed a heavier guy to help push the heavier weights and he was just a big drag to a sailing boat i hope and wish the best for jeff and hope he wrestles cause he could easily when state at 215 ...he had caputo on his back for a second as a soph he is good

Ranking Committee

11-22-2005, 01:38 PM

Updated

Fist of Love

11-22-2005, 02:40 PM

160
Kyle Campbell Lee's Summit

171
Kyle Campbell Lee's Summit

I'm sure Campbell has improved over the last year, but perhaps not this much... :wink:

Ranking Committee

11-22-2005, 03:10 PM

Senior moment, thanks!

Roscoe Russkie

11-22-2005, 03:45 PM

Brent Haynes 171 over Jeff Bowman :roll:

Ranking Committee

11-22-2005, 03:57 PM

Brent Haynes 171 over Jeff Bowman :roll:

These are not Missouri Wrestling official rankings. When the rosters are determined, the official ranker will post the rankings. These are only to generate input on rosters.

QuIcKpIcK05

11-22-2005, 10:25 PM

hey well i just found out that stevenson from joplin is going back to 140 and then Jacob Guernsey Joplin is going to 145 jacob is at about 150 right now so this will mixed things up a little just thought i would give this for all to know

bramabull

11-22-2005, 11:45 PM

from what i heard brazzle isnt wrestling. not sure why but i heard from one of his good friends. NEWBOLD IN HIS SPOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ranking Committee

11-23-2005, 06:59 AM

from what i heard brazzle isnt wrestling. not sure why but i heard from one of his good friends. NEWBOLD IN HIS SPOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jon was 10-10 last year. Depending on who ends up at 152 he may have to win some matches to get in the top 6. Remember that these are not rankings but a list of qualifiers and previously ranked wrestlers for the purpose of input. What ranked or previously ranked wrestlers other than Berry did he defeat last year?

wrestlefan19

11-24-2005, 10:22 AM

I highly doubt brazzle ends up Not wrestling

Spartanfan56

11-24-2005, 01:55 PM

brazzle from howell central is not wrestling this year.
he's going to concentrate on football.
this is very disapointing because i feel he would have been a placer this year and in the top 3 next year.

LS wrestling

11-28-2005, 01:39 PM

[quote="Ranking Committee":0294b]
160
Kyle Campbell Lee's Summit

171
Kyle Campbell Lee's Summit

I'm sure Campbell has improved over the last year, but perhaps not this much... :wink:[/quote:0294b]

considering that Campbell had season ending injuries the last 2 years no one has really seen what he is capable of. I think he will surprise a lot of people. Good luck Campbell

obnoxio

11-29-2005, 07:12 AM

Can we call him Kyle?

Ranking Committee

11-29-2005, 01:57 PM

We need some input on the 103 class. Any others at 103 that would potentially be in the top 10?

Ashley Hudson
Kyle Bradley
Mac Bailey
Zach Meury
Ryan Banning
Brady Houdeshelt
Josh Howk
Jake Wattercotte

fudge tunnel

11-29-2005, 02:07 PM

Ashley Hudson

I think you gotta go w/ Hudson #1, don't ya?

Greg

11-29-2005, 03:42 PM

I had heard Ashley will be at 112. I can't remember who told me that, but I think it was a pretty reliable source. Also I think Josh Howk is only an 8th grader.

techfall02

11-29-2005, 08:29 PM

ashley hudson will be wrestling at 103 this year. She might wrestle 112 the first few matches, but will definately be at 103.

Bob Pollock

11-29-2005, 09:53 PM

dave

11-30-2005, 07:54 AM

Looks like Wehmer Hazelwood West is also back at 103 along with Cvengros and Beggs already mentioned. Probably all need to be ranked in top ten.

Ranking Committee

11-30-2005, 08:02 AM

Dave,
Appreciate the information. Wehmer was not ranked last year, did not qualify and Jonathan hid last years results on us (temporarily). Can you give us any notable wins or information on him.
RC

dave

11-30-2005, 08:20 AM

Wehmer Hazelwood West lost to Pattonville Freebersyser in overtime in districts last year. Pattonville only lost to ashley 1-0 at Desmet last year.
Wehmer also took 2nd in the Hazelwood west tournament last year. He will be a big 103 this year and was probably a freshman last year.

Flinch

11-30-2005, 08:35 AM

Joey Jetton from Hazelwood Central decisioned Wehmer twice last year, once at the HZC vs HZW dual, and the other was at a tournament. He was under 100 all year last year, and should be a big 103 this year.

dave

11-30-2005, 08:46 AM

Joey Jetton Hazelwood Central has Beat Wehmer and should probably also be ranked but I never seen him wrestle. Also why didnt Jetton fill in at 112 last year against Pattonville Freebersyser instead they gave up a forfiet.

Flinch

11-30-2005, 08:52 AM

I think the real reason is because the HZC coach was getting agravated at Pattonville not wrestling Centrals' studs, so the HZC gave them some of their own medicine. Freebersyer weighed in at 103, and ended up going 112 to avoid Jones (they had the odd/even number and HZC had to send out the wrestler first). It was HZC senior night, and Pattonville gave up forfits when they had people to wrestle at 103 (Jones) 119 (Mead) and 145 (Williams).

dave

11-30-2005, 09:09 AM

If Jetton could have given Freebersyser a match at 112 then it was stupid not to wrestle him. How can that be giving Pattonville their own medicine.
Pattonville's 103 weighted in at 103 and wrestled 112 several times because he was alittle better than the 112. The point is if Jetton wrestled Freebersyser then I could compare that with the several matches he had against Weymer.

Ranking Committee

11-30-2005, 10:14 AM

Pending updates from week 1 tournaments.

RP-in-Nebraska

11-30-2005, 10:30 AM

Where is Ian Gossett? Is he wrestling this year? He wasn't listed on the Liberty results page from their dual last night either.

Lou

11-30-2005, 11:00 AM

Wehmer was 1-3 against Freebersyser last year all being close matches with the last one a SD loss at districts. Lost 13-9 to Steyer in their first meeting and then was pinned late in their second match. He met Jetton only once last year in the dual losing 6-5 I believe in OT. As for as top 10 I think that may be a stretch until he knocks off someone ranked. You can rank Jetton and put the pressure on him. :D

stoltio

11-30-2005, 11:39 AM

Lou, you're an evil genius!

coachsdtr

11-30-2005, 11:54 AM

What does the NQ stand for behind some of the names.

oxman

11-30-2005, 11:55 AM

Non-Qualifier??
8)

fudge tunnel

11-30-2005, 12:25 PM

Where is Ian Gossett?

not wrestling

obnoxio

11-30-2005, 01:15 PM

Yet? or ever?

wise one

11-30-2005, 08:11 PM

i heard Ian Gosset quit to do theatre or something of that matter and Cody Miller can't wrestle until Semester.

datawhse

11-30-2005, 10:00 PM

Could someone share information about Howell's lower weights this year? Who are Nick and Matt baker, Zach Silver, and Winston Wolf? Do they have any Little league experience? Are they transfers from out of state? I don't see them on any of the programs from last year.

dave

12-01-2005, 07:36 AM

Hactel at 125 probably not going 112 also doubt if Zeigler will be there. Three possibilities for 9th and 10th slot at 112. Freebersyser-Pattonville, Wheelis-Parkway West or George-CBC.

wrestlefan19

12-01-2005, 08:24 AM

Samples chaminade is 125 according to results page
seeing as how he was 125 last yr i imagine he will stay there

howellfan

12-01-2005, 10:23 AM

I know Winston wrestled last year on the freshman team and I have don't know anything about the other wrestlers other than that they are freshman.

techfall02

12-01-2005, 10:51 AM

georger from cbc is not wrestling this year. Ziegler should be 112 eventually but not at the start of the year.

Randy B

12-01-2005, 11:00 AM

Nick Baker is a freshman that wrestled the past 2-3 yrs. at Howell Central youth program. He is a small 103 with a lot of heart and determination. He could be one of those kids that is a career 103-112. Matt Baker is a sophmore (I think) that started wrestling as a freshman but trained with Sammie Henson when he was in town. He is still learning but a real tuff kid.

bill gossett

12-01-2005, 01:06 PM

yes, nebraska and fudge, ian is not wrestling. maybe he will change his mind next year, he will be a junior.

bill

bfankhauser

12-01-2005, 03:40 PM

Yes Randy and we appreciate all your efforts to bringing him along.

datawhse

12-03-2005, 11:26 AM

Thanks for the info B

Ranking Committee

12-05-2005, 08:30 PM

Pending weekend results

dnmhc

12-05-2005, 09:24 PM

At the patriot classic, Ojile from Vianney was said to be wrestling 125 not 135. Is this permanent or just for this tournament?

Ranking Committee

12-05-2005, 09:31 PM

It is our goal to assess the most likely qualifiers as part of the process but it is very early in the season and this is truely more for input than anything. We appreciate your's. We will be going over results with a fine tooth comb throughout the year and updating this district ranking. Not to be confused with the official rankings due out early next week.

Lou

12-06-2005, 05:17 AM

Steyers from McCluer North is at 103, he wrestled there at their dual with Hazelwood East.

KDSII

12-06-2005, 07:14 AM

Justin Michaels should be in district 1 130...not district 2

howellfan

12-06-2005, 08:35 AM

I think Loccoco may be cutting to 152 soon-not 100% sure.

Louden

12-06-2005, 09:31 AM

For ranking accuracy, I wish I could give you more information about Northwest. The only thing I can say is that 119 up to 145 could possibly change in a number of ways.

I don't know if Ingargiola could drop to 119 but I wouldn't be surprised.
I know Chandler could at least drop to 125 and IMO I would love to see him at 119-his ideal weight and I think he would be in for a medal at this weight.
Maxx Waterkotte could probably cut down to at least 125 too. Last year he was able to cut from 130-135 down to 112, and I honostly wouldn't be shocked if he was capable of doing something similar again this year.
Todd Porter looked like a solid 140 but It wouldn't surprise me to see him go lower because I don't think he was struggling at 140 at all.

Dual Meet wise the line-up is pretty solid the way it is now-maybe as solid as it can be-but as for tournament line up I personally would love to see:

103: Jake Waterkotte
112: Vito Krischke
119: Matt Chandler
125: Vito Ingarigiola
130: Maxx Waterkotte
135: Todd Porter
140: Wes Nicholas
145: ?
152: Nick Uzzetta
160: Alan Corzine
171: ?
189: Ron Porter
215: Brad Aten
HVY: Steve Himmelmann

I know this knocks out Herb, and Herb is a quality wrestler, but as far as State Potential it is my outside guess that Chandler would go further at this point in time based upon the matches I saw this weekend.

This is just a fans idea, and I have no idea what goes on in practice since I can't make it to them anymore, and I have no idea of how much the guys struggle with their weight other than rumors. I don't even get to chat with the Coaches as much as I used to so I am more on the outside of what's going on with the team now more than ever. I may know nothing about what I am saying here so... I don't even know why I posted. haha!

obnoxio

12-06-2005, 10:58 AM

maybe Herb will wrestle 145...

Oscar

12-06-2005, 01:18 PM

I think those moves will happen very, very soon.

dave

12-06-2005, 02:49 PM

District 1 move Ashley to 103.

District 2 move Freebersyser to 112 from 119.

Move Zeigler to #1 at 119.

Fill- in Samples Pattonville at 119 in opening.

DBaron

12-06-2005, 05:45 PM

Simpson from Hzlwd West is out until late January with knee injure from football

reddevils07

12-06-2005, 06:27 PM

In District 2 152, Flavin should be ranked ahead of Yarborough. Flavin beat him twice last year.

mustanglives

12-06-2005, 08:00 PM

Here are some guys that should be in top 4 of District 1 from Marquette

Chet Eisenmayer senior 189
Beat Jack Rodgers Pin and Darrence Thomas HWtech

Alex Haddad 171
Beat Huskey FOX

112 Trevor Bunch ..kid with no legs benches 320 and won the HW Tournament

215 Mike Gioia OT match away from qualifying last year..knee injury kept him out the entire season until the end. Healthy this year

Ranking Committee

12-06-2005, 10:42 PM

We appreciate the input, keep it coming. Without brackets on the tournaments there will be matches unavailable on the results so we need the input. We will not be changing the weight class on wrestlers based on Forum input, results will be required. Hopefully this weeks duals and tournaments will reflect changes for the December rankings. If there are a significant number of class changes we may update the rankings prior to mid January. The current plan is to update them after the Holiday tournaments.

scottwashere

12-07-2005, 06:33 PM

Darth, I think you underestimate Herb. My option is, I belive Herb would not lose his 119 spot.

howellfan

12-07-2005, 08:42 PM

At the Howell vs Eureka dual, Loccoco was at 152, Fankhauser was at 145, and Clay was at 135. Not to sure who was at 160, nor do I have any results from the meet.

C4D4

12-07-2005, 09:10 PM

At the Howell vs Eureka dual, Loccoco was at 152, Fankhauser was at 145, and Clay was at 135. Not to sure who was at 160, nor do I have any results from the meet.

Brave young man with Wolfrum there. About as brave as Wiest dropping to 140 for another round with Bailey. :oops:

howellfan

12-08-2005, 07:32 AM

I would assume Loccoco knows that and would only drop if he knew he had a chance against Wolfrum. I have not talked to Loccoco about it, but it is what I think.

Randy B

12-08-2005, 12:45 PM

Why do we always assume a wrestler dropped a weight class instead of thinking that they were wrestling up a weight to begin with?

Louden

12-08-2005, 12:56 PM

Darth, I think you underestimate Herb. My option is, I belive Herb would not lose his 119 spot.

If you read my predicions on another page, you will see that I predicted Herb as a State Qualifier at 119. So please don't think I am saying that Herb isn't very good. To even make Northwests lower weight classes you have to be solid because they are deep there. I think they have many other kids who could start varsity on most teams wrestling for freshmen and JV including, Tyler Stahlman, Robert Grindstaff, Matt Gore, etc so Herb being there shows he is a tough cookie.

IMO I think all 3 of Matt Chandler, Vito Ingarigiola, and Herb Krischke can be at 119 if they really wanted it-especially by January with the 2 lbs allowance. I've heard that in practice those three push each other pretty hard and are pretty even on a given day. It is my personal opinion that, Chandler is the best match wrestler of the three. I think that when it comes down to it in a real match, as of this point in time Chandler will shine the brightest. Example? Ingarigiola losing to Banderet 7-3 (was never in the match) and Chandler dominating Banderate 12-5. I don't think that is a dis on the other two, because they are all very talented. Chandler just has a ton of tools. A lot of kids have two or three moves that they are very skilled at, wheras what makes Chandler different is that he has a dozen.

We'll see how it all turns out, and the vet of the three is Ingarigiola. He's been there and done that, even beating a kid at State last year that most thought would medal. Chandler and Herb are still green to varsity and will have to grow a lot to be certain they are going to be able to compete at the top levels-where Ingarigiola proved he can last year.

Based on all of this, this is why I thought Herb would be bumped if they all dropped a weight class. He is a tough kid and is right there with them so I wouldn't be shocked to see him prove me wrong.

Just my opinion.

Actually I was starting to have a change of heart. While I think Chandler will be a big force at 119, 125 might be the better fit because he can probably make it close to if not just as far at 125 and he also might be able to handle the extra weight better than Ingarigiola whom I thought was either getting off to a slow start or simply not at his ideal weight this year. It's too early to tell. The Coaches know best and they will work things out. I'm just a fan. 8)

gbmem

12-08-2005, 02:06 PM

do you mean matt chandler from northwest not parkway west

Louden

12-08-2005, 02:17 PM

do you mean matt chandler from northwest not parkway west

Ranking Comittee, this post is directed towards you regarding your post on page 4

missouriwrestler

12-11-2005, 11:55 AM

[color=red]We need some input on the 103 class. Any others at 103 that would potentially be in the top 10?

Ashley Hudson
Kyle Bradley
Mac Bailey
Zach Meury
Ryan Banning
Brady Houdeshelt
Josh Howk Jake Wattercotte

:) Sammy Martell Blue Springs

Bob Pollock

12-11-2005, 12:58 PM

howellfan

12-11-2005, 01:28 PM

I know Blue Springs wrestled in either the first, third or fith place match at MO Duals.

TTcat

12-11-2005, 06:50 PM

Blue Springs finished with 3rd place. Sammy went 5-2...i believe.

TTcat

12-11-2005, 07:18 PM

103 Sammy Martell (5-2), 112 Michael Toon (6-1), 119 Luke Greco (4-3), 125 Tyler Thompson (5-2), 130 Daniel Levy (5-2), 135 Chris Howk (4-3), 140 Chris Chionuma (5-2), 145 Ryan Greco (3-4), 152 Kyle Levy (2-5), 160 Clarence Neely (5-2), 171 Jeff Bowman (7-0), 189 Nick Bowman (5-2), 215 John Ott (6-1), 275 Dom Bradley (7-0)...

TTcat

12-11-2005, 07:18 PM

^( Blue Springs results)^

Ranking Committee

12-14-2005, 05:21 AM

To be updated

Lou

12-14-2005, 08:08 AM

Great job on the rankings! I can see you have put alot into these rankings by the number of honorable mentions you list! I'd like to say though that at 135 lbs Pat Mills(HW) should be ranked ahead of Jay Warren(HE), he pinned him in their dual. Great job again and there should be plenty of discusion on these boards now, even for Darth! :D

Ranking Committee

12-14-2005, 08:16 AM

Had the Mills match noted and missed it, sorry. We will likely update these after the Holiday tournaments. Keep the input coming, it is appreciated on here or PM.

Flinch

12-14-2005, 08:52 AM

Great job on the rankings! Brian Oech is going 145 and Brett is going 140, atleist that's what I've heard.

miz6767

12-14-2005, 09:06 AM

1 . Justin Wolfrum - Ft. Zumwalt West
2 . Brandon Loccoco - Francis Howell
3 . Ray Hall - Oak Park
4 . Sean Gant - Jackson
5 . Brian Patrick - Pattonville
6 . Nick Uzzetta - Northwest
7 . Adam Beardon - Lindbergh
8 . Ben McMillian - Jackson
9 . Brad Diekhaus - Francis Howell Central
10 . Jon Newbold - Ft. Zumwalt South
two from Jackson??

QuIcKpIcK05

12-14-2005, 12:17 PM

i think the ranking r bad at 140 and 145........thats all iam saying effing haters

coachsdtr

12-14-2005, 12:24 PM

I think they look pretty good - considering how early in the year it is.

BadBoy

12-14-2005, 02:01 PM

The 103 lb rankings are off. Ashley Hudson is at 112 so she does not factor into the rankings. No way is Mac Bailey anything but 1st or 2nd (although Kyle beat Mac the last time I saw them wrestle). I believe Banning should be higher than 10th place and Zack Meury is ranked too high. Chase Houdashelt should be more than just an honorable mention.

Ranking Committee

12-14-2005, 02:03 PM

Thanks for pointing out the duplication at 152, we will ask Jonathan correct it. The good news is that there are several of us contributing to the cause which provides input from all districts. The bad news is that the reconciliation of everyones input gets confusing.

On the subject of QuIcKpIcK05's input on 140 and 145, we need your help QP. I gather that you are a Joplin fan from your posts and don't like the Joplin wrestlers ranking. I apologize in advance if my assumption is incorrect. Last year, the Joplin squad did not and will not see any of the other class 4 ranked wrestlers nor will they this year in the regular season. Last year, They made it to state but wrestled two matches and lost both. I will say, the match with Snyder at 145 was a good showing. Without some results, it is a difficult task. Possibly you can do some research for us through the season and keep us posted on matches they have with ranked wrestlers from other classes. We can then look at common opponents.

oxman

12-14-2005, 02:07 PM

I think the Class 4 rankings are..............AWESOME!!!!
Thanks for all of the hard work...
8)

Warren Haynes

12-14-2005, 06:04 PM

A lot will be decided this weekend at lee's summit. Most of the top teams will be there. Thnx for these set of rankings. and keep up the good work.

Flaxbeard

12-14-2005, 08:58 PM

Nice Job with the rankings!

Izzy

12-14-2005, 09:28 PM

Good Job on the rankings. I appreciate all your work. FYI at 140 Trevor Kemp defeated Jake Plaggenberg (sp) last weekend at Helias.

datawhse

12-16-2005, 11:25 AM

I concur, good job on the first cut. At 145 FH Fankhauser beat R Greco 17-5 and beat Ozarks Chad Gardner 11-1. Both wins at missouri duals

GPCfan

12-18-2005, 10:51 AM

bowles from liberty has beat both grecco and stueve this week... just thought i would point that out

Ranking Committee

12-18-2005, 02:22 PM

Did Bowles and Greco meet at Raytown?

Goon

12-18-2005, 02:31 PM

Yes Bowles did beat #10 Stueve & #6 Greco this week, It was an outstanding match between Bowles and Grecco Bowles won in OT, should be a great rematch come Jan. 2 at Liberty. Bowles also took on #7 Cox
this weekend went to OT but a lose, Cox staled 90% of the time and only made a handful of attempts at shots on Bowles Cox would only make counter moves on Bowles, Cox got the final win after Bowles was off the mat and stopped because of no room to maneuver, No excuses Cox won this also will be a great rematch comes Districts this time I hope thier is better officials on the mat to make the calls.

Goon

12-18-2005, 02:35 PM

Yes!! Raytown

Greg

12-18-2005, 03:26 PM

Badboy I agree with you about Mac, Ryan, and Chase; however I disagree with you about Zach Meury (if anything he should be higher), and I think his performance at Lee's Summit proves that out.

Ranking Committee

12-18-2005, 04:01 PM

Any input?
Kyle Bradley
Mac Bailey
Jake Waterkotte
Matt Steyer
Zach Muery
Brock Summers
Chase Houdasheldt
Ryan Banning
Chris Wehmer
Jake Beggs

Warren Haynes

12-18-2005, 04:20 PM

Any input?
Kyle Bradley
Mac Bailey
Jake Waterkotte
Matt Steyer
Zach Muery
Brock Summers
Chase Houdasheldt
Ryan Banning
Chris Wehmer
Jake Beggs

First time i saw most of these guys was at lee's summit.
Kyle Bradley is amazing and should stay #1. Houdashedt lost to sommers in the consolation semis of lee's summit. Meury majored sommers 10-2 for fifth. Waterkotte is huge and very tough, won cape. haven't seen the rest. bradley majored meury, but not sure of the score. mac bailey missed weight on friday night, so i didnt get to see him.

Rick Williams

12-18-2005, 08:50 PM

Who did Kyle lose to?

Bob Pollock

12-19-2005, 05:34 AM

Ranking Committee

12-19-2005, 08:02 AM

Rankings should be updated soon. The committee has exchanged notes and they are in final review. Thanks to all for the results.

TuffEnuff

12-19-2005, 10:52 AM

Can you be a bit unbiased this time and either leave out the Oak Park pictures or put pictures in of all of the #1 ranked wrestlers?

Bob Pollock

12-19-2005, 11:00 AM

RP-in-Nebraska

12-19-2005, 11:26 AM

Can you be a bit unbiased this time and either leave out the Oak Park pictures or put pictures in of all of the #1 ranked wrestlers?

Dear Mr. Enuff,

I believe that the administrator of this site has made several appeals to the wrestling community requesting pictures of the ranked wrestlers. If you know some of them, take their picture and send it to Jonathan. Obviously, one team has answered the call for pictures, and most of the others have not. Enough's enough - get off your duff, Mr. Enuff, stop posting fluff in the buff....stop trying to make Jonathan's job too rough and tough (even though Jon likes to puff). 8)

Randy B

12-19-2005, 11:41 AM

Warren...Bradley beat Muery 21-8 (Muery is tough on top)

Ricky...Kyle lost in OT to Forrest. (Forrest is a great scrambler and has excellent mat presense!)

Kyle learned a valuable lesson about High School wrestling...They don't count as points until the match is over not when you think they are awarded.

As for the rankings I wouldn't underestimate Banning.

Rick Williams

12-19-2005, 11:59 AM

Where is Banning from...103 is going to be fun come Feb...

northco

12-19-2005, 12:23 PM

Banning is at 103 for CBC

obnoxio

12-19-2005, 01:30 PM

I have a picture of dot-boy...

fudge tunnel

12-19-2005, 03:05 PM

I have a picture of Obnoxio....

Ranking Committee

12-20-2005, 09:05 AM

Class 4 rankings have been updated based on the holiday tournaments. Please send any objective input.

BadBoy

12-20-2005, 09:13 AM

Where is the 215 lb ranking for class 4?

howellfan

12-20-2005, 09:14 AM

140
1 . Todd Porter - Northwest
2 . Zach Homan - Lee's Summit North
3 . David Weber - Oak PArk
4 . Trevor Kemp - Jefferson City
5 . Jake Plaggneberg - Francis Howell
6 . Brett Buettner - Lindbergh
7 . Alex Zeman - Ft Zumwalt West
8 . Nathan Fine - Pattonville
9 . Jon Holden - SLUH
10 . Colby Case - Lee's Summit

Honorable Mention
Brett Oeschner - Troy Buchanan
Charlie Morris - Hazelwood Central
Chris Chiomuna - Blue Springs
Jesse Stevenson - Joplin
John Mallison - William Chrisman
Justin Robidoux - Mehlville
Pat Recor - Francis Howell Central
Pete Martinez - Marquette
Reynolds - Hickman
Zach Bailey - Oak Park

How do two Oak Park kids get ranked in the same weight? And what is going on with Z. Bailey?

Ranking Committee

12-20-2005, 09:26 AM

Here is the 215, Jonathan will correct the ranking page for us.
215
1 . Wes Vilda - CBC
2 . Kamden Rampley - Jackson
3 . Kenny Stewart - Hazelwood East
4 . Kolton Kono - Oak Park
5 . John Ott - Blue Springs
6 . Mitch Barnett - Liberty
7 . Britton Snyder - Lee's Summit North
8 . Jack Rogers - Fox
9 . Ryan Zimmerman - Francis Howell Central
10 . Eddie Watkins - Parkway West

Honorable Mention
Ben Balch - Francis Howell
Brad Aten - Northwest
Daryl Clark - Kirkwood
Eric Gass - SLUH
Frank Burkert - St. Joe Central
Quitan Bell - Lafayette
Ray Harris - Pattonville
Ricky George - Hazelwood West
Mike Gioia - Marquette

Louden

12-20-2005, 09:28 AM

Ranking Committee

12-21-2005, 07:53 AM

The 125 & 130 Ranking will be revised as follows:
125
1 . Miles Bolin - Ft. Zumwalt West
2 . Jacob Nay - Oak Park
3 . K C Pescaglia - Hickman
4 . Darren Green - Oakville
5 . Vito Igarigiola - Northwest
6 . Kyle Hatchel - Francis Howell North
7 . Zach Flaxbeard - Ritenour
8 . Eddie Rogers - Francis Howell Central
9 . Joey Muenster - Vianney
10. Justin Michaels - Parkway West

Honorable Mention

Andrew Olejnik - Lafayette
Chris Eime - Seckman
Dan Lehmann - Desmet
Donny Bonds - Riverview Gardens
Jeff Banderet - Fox
Justin Miller - Jackson
Kris Kuhn - Park Hill South
Mario Smith - Hazwlwood East
Matt Kelly - Winnetonka
Nick Steinbrook - Lindbergh
Ryan Thompson - Blue Springs

130
1. Scott O'Donnell - Oak Park
2. Reid Garcia - Parkway South
3. John VanVelkinburgh - Francis Howell North
4 . Mike Lebarge - Liberty
5 . Sean Kelly - Francis Howell Central
6 . Joey Wolfrum - Ft. Zumwalt West
7 . Matt Chandler - Northwest
8 . Josh Rolling - Jefferson City
9 . George Young - Parkway West
10 . Jamie Schumacher - Jackson

Honorable Mention
Devin Graham - Troy Buchanan
Dondrell Harris - Lafayette
Jesse Cain - Lindbergh
Kevin Smith - CBC
Daniel Levy - Blue Springs

preceptor

12-21-2005, 11:43 AM

If I complain will the kids that I like move up in the rankings?

Louden

12-21-2005, 12:01 PM

If I complain will the kids that I like move up in the rankings?

It might. It seems to work for some people.

Ranking Committee

12-21-2005, 01:25 PM

If I complain will the kids that I like move up in the rankings?

It might. It seems to work for some people.

The answer to the question is NO. Once again, results, in particular, tournament pool, wrestleback, quarter final and semi final results are very useful. A special thanks to Darth Bader for Cape and Mr. Lundy for LSX this last weekend. We also appreciate the private messages we recieve. Your critisism is welcome, it only makes us dig deeper. There are some errors, we aren't afraid to admit it. As an example of some possible over sights, there are two NW wrestlers that could potentially be moved down in rank due to losses to wrestlers ranked below them. A single loss isn't neccessarily cause for a change BTW, we saw that with Reid Garcia. There is unfortunately a fair amount of subjectivity that is required. I would be very interested in explaining our rational on the individuals you feel were advance because of complaining Darth Bader.

Louden

12-21-2005, 02:35 PM

I would be very interested in explaining our rational on the individuals you feel were advance because of complaining Darth Bader.

Justin Wolfrum and Erik Warner.

Joking. :?

Ranking Committee

12-29-2005, 09:48 AM

Updated

Bob Pollock

01-01-2006, 07:47 PM

Merle Oglethorpe

01-01-2006, 09:05 PM

and won the title with an 8-4 decision over No. 1-ranked D.W. Bradshaw of Marshall."

I wonder if Bradshaw was smiling and mocking Guersney in that match?

Bob Pollock

01-01-2006, 09:34 PM

The Godfather

01-01-2006, 09:47 PM

[quote="Merle Oglethorpe":b8e6e][quote="Bob Pollock":b8e6e]and won the title with an 8-4 decision over No. 1-ranked D.W. Bradshaw of Marshall."

I wonder if Bradshaw was smiling and mocking Guersney in that match?[/quote:b8e6e]

What is this? I would seriously doubt it! Man, change that Avatar. No disrepect to whoever it is but it looks like she just went a few rounds and took some heavy cross faces.[/quote:b8e6e]

LMAO!! I thought the exact same thing! That scared the crap out of me when I came to this page...

Louden

01-02-2006, 08:36 AM

Ouch guys! What if that is his wife/mother/sister?

Merle Oglethorpe

01-02-2006, 08:44 AM

Actually, she is my wife.

Bob Pollock

01-02-2006, 09:37 AM

Ranking Committee

01-03-2006, 04:20 PM

We are reviewing the rankings and may issue the third release yet this week. We will reduce the number of ranked wrestlers to 8 from 10. We were also going to reduce the honorable mention to 4 but we would like some input. What about 8 HM also and attempting to predict the 16 qualifiers? It would look something like this:
112
1 . Vito Krishke Northwest (D1 1st)
2 . Marty Uehlin Oak Park (D4 1st)
3 . Wendall Jones Hazelwood Central (D2 1st)
4 . Matt Derlarber Fox (D1 2nd)
5 . Greg Benenati Ft. Zumwalt West (D3 1st)
6 . Mike Toon Blue Springs (D4 2nd)
7 . Robby Brooks Francis Howell North (D2 2nd)
8 . Brandt Lloyd Joplin (D3 2nd)

Honorable Mention
Sterling Wheelis Parkway West (D1 3rd)
Tim Irving Lindbergh (D1 4th)
Jon Freebersyser Pattonville (D2 3rd)
Jeromy Mentor McCluer North (D2 4th)
Matt Allen Blue Springs South (D3 3rd)
Sean Kennedy Francis Howell Central (D3 4th)
Jake Denson Liberty (D4 3rd)
Shane Noland Fort Osage (D4 4th)

oxman

01-03-2006, 04:25 PM

I would not reduce anything...
My OPINION is that you guys do a great job ranking these wrestlers...
The more info you give us the better....
Just my OPINION.... :)
I really appreciate all of your work!
8)

bfankhauser

01-04-2006, 05:09 AM

You may already be doing this, but I would try to predict the 16 coming out of districts and rank them 1-6 or 1-8. HM the rest. Thanks for your work.

B. Buckley

01-04-2006, 07:52 AM

Willy Ressel is at 171 for Kicakpoo, he will be staying at that weight, Jared Vanwey is at 160 for us. That may help with the rankings.
Coach Buckley

Ranking Committee

01-04-2006, 07:55 AM

Sorry coach, he will need to move back to 160, the round 3 rankings are posted. We will be revising them soon as we anticipate more assistance with the district ranks.

B. Buckley

01-04-2006, 08:25 AM

No problem here, I thought it would open up a spot for another wrestler. Thanks for all you do.

Louden

01-04-2006, 08:52 AM

Warner

01-05-2006, 08:03 AM

While checking the results for duals page, I saw that Kyle Bradly wrestled 119 last night. That is quite a jump from 103. I'm sure coach was filling the line-up or Kyle has been eating the house.

Louden

01-05-2006, 08:42 AM

While checking the results for duals page, I saw that Kyle Bradly wrestled 119 last night. That is quite a jump from 103. I'm sure coach was filling the line-up or Kyle has been eating the house.

I'm thinking that it was simply a strategic move for the night.

Randy B

01-05-2006, 01:24 PM

Warner you know what his old man looks like so the weight gain shouldn't come as a surprise, it's all genetic! He didn't eat the whole house just the refrigerator. I also heard him mumbling something between bites that 119 was a little tuffer than 103 but alot more fun! :lol:

joeysull

01-11-2006, 05:54 PM

This has probably been answered before, but I was wondering where TJ Scheiber from Blue Springs and Ian Gossett from Liberty are? They both placed in state last year and they are both very young. Just curious because I don't see them ranked anywhere.

fudge tunnel

01-11-2006, 08:09 PM

Ranking Committee

01-12-2006, 07:03 AM

Rankings have been updated.

dave

01-12-2006, 08:17 AM

Why Is Wheelis below Bunch and Mintor? He Finished 3rd at Cape and they finished 5th and 6th. And why is Wheelis D1 2nd below Trevor D1 3rd? When did Zeigler go to 112 and who did he beat there? What happened to Morgan Mehlville 4th at Cape? Morgan beat Mintor and Freebersyser beat Morgan the night before. Who has Mintor beat that is ranked or HM besides Trevor?

missouriwrestler

01-12-2006, 09:58 AM

Sam Martell should be ranked top 8 he beat Muery, Langdon, Pescagila and split with Beggs. Clarence Neely should be ranked in the top 8 he won the Marquette tournament. Plus i heard Mckinney quit wrestling. Jeff Bowman and Haynes will be the match to watch. Is Lococo really moving up to 160.

01-12-2006, 10:01 AM

he beat Muery on a penatly point

Warren Haynes

01-12-2006, 10:06 AM

Did the Fox wrestlers drop because of their inactivity over the weekend. ie. Rodgers, Brengle and Campbell.

howellfan

01-12-2006, 10:08 AM

Plaggenbur was back at 140 for the match against FZN. I hear he may not drop down to 135, not 100% sure.

Ranking Committee

01-12-2006, 10:25 AM

Dave,
All of these boys look pretty close. Wheelis and Bunch 2-1 OT. Freeberseyer 3-1 over Wheelis. I wish we had more detail on Morgan. For now, Mintor and Bunch are 7 and 8 repectively based on their wins over Michael Toon. Ziegler was ranked 4th last year behind Krischke, Jones and Benenati. His wins got him there. You probably followed him last year. We appreciate the input, keep us posted here or on PM. We are updating more frequently in an effort to rank the districts, we will see what happens.
Thanks

howellfan

01-12-2006, 02:55 PM

How did Howell North get ranked higher than Howell, when Howell placed higher than Howell North at GAC. Is there some tournaments Howell North did better in than at GAC?

oxman

01-12-2006, 03:06 PM

howellfan----The team rankings are simply a projected amount of points that each team may score at State based on the current individual rankings. Which team won in a dual or regular season tournament like GACs has nothing to do with it.

For a ranking which does CONSIDER performance in regular season duals and tournies,
please look at the All-Class Team rankings.
You will see that Francis Howell is ranked above Francis Howell North based on those criteria.

To see how they most likely will place in the State Tournament, look at the Team rankings.

Hope this helps....
8)

howellfan

01-12-2006, 03:11 PM

I missed the all class team ranking, but I still feel that Howell will do better in state (I am a little biased).

sleeper

01-12-2006, 09:42 PM

Is Brennen of St Joe. Centeral back at 145 or is he at 140. Because he has been going at 145 lately.

meatwad

01-16-2006, 12:45 PM

someone help me out here.......

I heard Benenati is ineligible because of grades. Can anyone out there confirm or deny?

Fender

01-17-2006, 10:01 AM

In the 140 HM you have Tony Lucchesi as a SLUH wrestler, he is from De Smet

Bob Pollock

01-18-2006, 09:51 AM

Lou

01-18-2006, 10:08 AM

Bob, these records are recieved by the Post-Dispatch no later then the Monday before they appear in the Post on Tuesday. Each St. Louis area coach was asked to submit records each week for a weekly honor roll that comes out on Tuesday, this is the second week they have been published and most of them appear to be up to date as of 1/16/06.

QuIcKpIcK05

01-18-2006, 12:29 PM

From the Post:
Pepper 30-0
Lococo 28-0
Rico Williams 27-0
Oeschner 23-0
Warner 22-0
V Krischke 32-1
Bradley 26-1
Bolin 20-1
Justin Wolfrum 19-1
Jones 16-1
Weist 15-1
Crossett 28-2
Ryan Johnson25-2
Stewart 25-2
Landrum 19-2
Wehmer 25-3
Morris24-3
McCravey 19-3
Todd Porter 29-4
Woods 28-4
Foley 25-4
Warren 24-4
Mills 24-4
Diekhause 23-4
Loyde 22-5
Thornton 22-5

From 1/17 paper, not sure how accurate or what date they were from.

u forgot 1 Jacob G...32-0

Bob Pollock

01-18-2006, 12:46 PM

swmo fan

01-18-2006, 10:59 PM

Bob,

I believe Llyod, Joplin is 30-1, with his one loss to Nathan Anderson, MDC 3-0.

Anderson in my opinion is the front runner for Class 2 State Champ at 112

Louden

01-19-2006, 09:01 AM

What happened to the 145 Beardon?

Ranking Committee

01-19-2006, 09:35 AM

What happened to the 145 Beardon?

There was an error in the pool data that showed Beardon winning the match with Isringhausen at Lee's Summit. Trevor won by decision. Beardon has a loss to Patrick Stueve from LS.

datawhse

01-19-2006, 11:02 AM

Jake Plaggenburg, Francis Howell (24-5) after finals of Riverview Tournament

alumnus

01-19-2006, 03:04 PM

who has gant from jackson at 152 beat to deserve such a high ranking?

dave

01-23-2006, 09:41 AM

? 7) Minter and 8) Lloyd.
How did Lloyd get to #8 and has Minter beat anyone besides Toon include any HMs or ranked wrestlers any class that these two have Beat.
I guess Denson will be moving up to 7 or 8 by beating Toon and Uehlin.
I also think Freebersyser should be 7 or 8 by recently beating Bunch, Kennedy, Wheelis and Emamjome Class3 #8. Also went into OT with Lamar Class2 HM who beat Griffith cape Central Class3 #10 who took 2nd at Cape Tornament and beat Mintor 5-4.

Mr.C

01-23-2006, 11:51 AM

With all do respect, Lloyd from Joplin has lost only one match all year and was a state placer last year in class four. This year, though he has not faced many of the top competitors at class four, he has beaten the very best that the lower classes have had to offer which isnt to shabby. He is deserving of at least the 8th ranking and probably higher.

dave

01-23-2006, 12:39 PM

I repeat who exactly (names) has he beat this year. Margarita has beaten class2 #2 Fowler and isn't even HM class 4. The weight class is very tough with many wrestlers with similar levels of talent. What did Steyers lose to lloyd by at state last year? Steyers wasn't ranked all last year but I could have told you he'd be at state.

emkcus

01-31-2006, 10:02 AM

Apparently Lloyd was spanked in a semifinal match at Blue Springs South. He then injury defaulted his 3rd place match against Burnes from Platte County. Guess he couldn't stomach two woopings in 1 day.

Louden

01-31-2006, 11:46 AM

Guess he couldn't stomach two woopings in 1 day.

Who knows if that is true or not but it does bring up another point supporting a strong schedule. I think it isn't uncommon for a tough kid who is used to winning to lose his head when he finally meets someone of his skill. I don't know if this happened to Lloyd or not but it does happen. With a stronger schedule, and a few more losses, a situation like above is less likely to occur, and less likely to have a huge impact on someone. It happens even to the best. Look at Dan Gable and Larry Owings.