View Full Version : Jackson VS. Henderson
UshootIscore
08-26-2007, 01:31 PM
Quinton Jackson (UFC Light Heavyweight Champion) (Record: 27-6-0)
Vs
Dan Henderson (PRIDE FC Middleweight Champion) (Record: 22-5-0)
What are some predictions on this fight.......
Retired
08-27-2007, 12:20 PM
I don't think these two have ever met up before but I think Jackson is gonna be tough to beat.
KDSII
08-28-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm going to say Dan Henderson might be able to handle Jackson
Leroy Jenkins
09-06-2007, 01:52 PM
Henderson wins out.
passby
09-07-2007, 10:24 AM
Both show no weakness. I anticipate a good battle but eventually Henderson finds a way to make rampage tap out
chad_hopkins
09-07-2007, 11:12 AM
I found it funny on UFC unleashed last night, someone said that Rampage could out wrestle Henderson, or that Rampage had the wrestling advantage
CoachW
09-08-2007, 10:52 PM
Chad, that actually looked to be true tonight. I was quite impressed with Rampage's ability to keep Henderson under control from the top.
Retired
09-09-2007, 01:53 PM
It looked to me more like Henderson was resting on bottom. Each time they got in a clinch Henderson took Jackson to the mat. I dont know if I agreed with the judges in this bout or the Bisping-Hamil bout, both fights could have gone either way but at least the Bisping-Hamil fight was a split decision. I wonder who will get the next shot at Rampage
chad_hopkins
09-09-2007, 04:23 PM
Matt,
That may be true, however, I think Hendo is more of a 185 pound fighter and that might be able to explain why Rampage was successful on the ground. Enough of that how bad did Hamill get screwed?
CoachW
09-09-2007, 09:00 PM
Matt,
That may be true, however, I think Hendo is more of a 185 pound fighter and that might be able to explain why Rampage was successful on the ground. Enough of that how bad did Hamill get screwed?
Chad, I agree with you on Hendo should be at 185. Rampage just looked enormous next to him.
Hamill got screwed and I think its a black spot on the spot. Fixing fights belongs to boxing, not the UFC. I feel like the judges wouldnt let Bisping lose being as the fight was in London. Hamill looked like the more dominant fighter, without a doubt. Bisping looked nervous and shaken the first 2 rounds.
Louden
09-10-2007, 09:20 AM
Hamill got screwed and I think its a black spot on the spot. Fixing fights belongs to boxing, not the UFC. I feel like the judges wouldnt let Bisping lose being as the fight was in London. Hamill looked like the more dominant fighter, without a doubt. Bisping looked nervous and shaken the first 2 rounds.
I don't think it was fixed, conspiracy theories never sat well with me. I think it was just a case of crappy judging.
Rampage was able to wrestle with Henderson NOT because of his size (although it probably didn't hurt) but because MMA wrestling is different than straight wrestling. Jackson has outwrestled much better wrestlers than himself throughout his career. See him fight Randleman.
Warren Haynes
09-10-2007, 11:54 AM
in terms of the Hammill fight. I listen to the sherdog podcasts and they had one after the show. One of the things that were in Bisping's favor were the judges. Two of them came from karate type point scoring sports and were more appeased by the style of fighting of Bisping. I mean it was a tough fight to score and if Hammill had some cardio to take him deeper into a match than 8 minutes.
Robotech
09-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Total screw job on Hammil. I thought the judges in the UFC are instructed to judge the fight based on striking, grappling and overall command/control of the cage. Bisping had none of that. He was backing away from Hammil all night, he got out hit and out wrestled by Hammil. I don't see how the judges could've seen it any other way.
fudge tunnel
09-10-2007, 02:24 PM
Below is a petition that has almost 3k sigs so far regarding the BS outcome of the Hamill fight. Sign it early, sign it often....
http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html
Louden
09-10-2007, 02:40 PM
Below is a petition that has almost 3k sigs so far regarding the BS outcome of the Hamill fight. Sign it early, sign it often....
http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html
Damn. I too think Hamill won, but I don't care THAT much... :lol:
northco
09-12-2007, 06:40 AM
THIS IS HOW I WILL VIEW BISPING NOW. He needs to walk out to God Save the Queen instead of London Calling
I'll sign the petition. The reason I quit watching boxing was because of crap like the Bisping-Hamil fight. I sent an email to the UFC websight and told them I had spent my last dollar on UFC pay per view and merchandise.
I thing the only reason the judges gave the fight to Bisping is because the fights were in England and Bisping was the last hope of the evening for an English victory. The other English fighter was supposed to win earlier in the evening but he was submitted. Regardless of the reason for this outragious decision UFC has lost all credibility with most of its fans.
Louden
09-16-2007, 04:11 PM
I'll sign the petition. The reason I quit watching boxing was because of crap like the Bisping-Hamil fight. I sent an email to the UFC websight and told them I had spent my last dollar on UFC pay per view and merchandise.
I thing the only reason the judges gave the fight to Bisping is because the fights were in England and Bisping was the last hope of the evening for an English victory. The other English fighter was supposed to win earlier in the evening but he was submitted. Regardless of the reason for this outragious decision UFC has lost all credibility with most of its fans.
It's funny that the Judge from England was the guy whom gave it 30-27 in favor of Hamill, and the two American Judges gave it 29-28 Bisping.
I don't think it's the UFC's fault, it's the Judging.
In boxing they have three judges as well and it is common knowledge that they fix fights in that sport. I'm not typically a conspiracy theorist but I think the fix was in. What other explanation is there?
Louden
09-17-2007, 08:31 AM
Poor judging system. The UFC President himself said he thought Hamill won rounds 1 & 2. The UFC is currently judged on a 10 point must system like boxing, and fighters have long said that this system doesn't transfer over to MMA very well.
You may lose round 1 decisively, but if you eek by the next two you still win the fight, even if you were getting handled in the first period. Now I think Hamill won 30-27 myself, but 2 of the judges saw Bisping eeking out R2 and R3, and went on record saying they saw Hamill tiring and Bisping picking it up. Also, being in front of the home town of Bisping and having the crowd go wild with each punch he lands can have an effect on how you see the fight live as well.
I am not condoning anything or even trying to make excuses. I just don't believe in "fixes" in teh UFC. I'm not fond of conspiracy theories and I find that usually the less fantastic theory is usually the right theory.
I agree Louden. Ocums razor suggest the most plausable explanation is usually the correct explanation. In this case I don't know what the most plausable explanation is.
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