Centralia's Line up

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103 Jared Fricke
112 Mike Schmidt
119 Dakota Moore
125 Boone Lee
130 Dakota Gilbert- Going to 119
135 Chad Rouse-
140 Alonzo Pineiro- Going to 130
145 Brandon Rice/Royce Ridgway/Ethan McCoy ???
152 Justin Moore
160 Jordan Pool- Going to 145
171 Matt Schmidt/ Kameron Reams(injured right now)
189 Dayne Aitkens
215 Tony Ewigman
HWT Michael Collins

[Holdem]

130 POUNDER CAN NOT WRESTLE 119 IF WRESTLE'S AT 130 . NEW RULE'S THIS YEAR SAY'S YOU CAN ONLY GO DOWN 1 WEIGHT CLASS SO IF DAKOTA GILBERT WRESTLE'S AT 130 THEN 125 IS THE LOWEST HE CAN GO . SAME WITH ALONZO PINEIRO 135 WOULD BE HIS LOWEST .

[michael moudy]

unless the 130 pounder weighed less than 125 and if 140 pounder weighed in less than 135.

[Goodoldboy]

I understood that a wrestler could wrestle at 140 until he actually certifies at the 130 lb class. Once he certifies at the target weight he can no longer go up to 140 without recertifying at 135.

[legrider]

Once you have wrestled at the higher weight regardless of what your weight is, the lowest possible weight you can go is one lower than the highest weight you wrestled, if you are certified to drop.

The Biggest misconception is a lot of people are thinking the weight is the trigger for what you can go. It is not it is the wieght class you wrestle that triggers. So if your planning and are able to drop more than one weight class, you won't be able to wrestle until you get to the one weight class above what your target is.

Bottome line is if you are certified to wrestle 140 but have been wrestling 145 you are still fine to drop to 140, but once you wrestle (not weigh) at 152 you no longer have the option to go to 140 PERIOD regardless of your weight! So if you have a bye and bump up just to get a match or if the coach is trying to win a dual you lose your ticket to get to the lower weight class if that was your intent to do so for Districts. Hope this helps.

[DaNutt]

legrider

I will give you a true life situation that someone could get something going.

11/21/06 Marshall puts one of their guys at 189 vs Sedalia.
12/2/06 this same guy wrestles 171 at Park Hill duals
12/5/06 then wrestles this same guy at 160 vs Warrensburg

so you are saying he should only be able to wreslte 171 for the yr?
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[DaNutt]

http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1179436.html
189
http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1180082.html
171

I was at the Marshall/'burg dual where he wrestled Gelbach at 160
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[Roadwarrior]

QUESTION: My “Minimum Wrestling Weight (MWW) = 125.05017 however my Minimum Wrestling Weight w/Variance (MWWV) = 125. How can this be? ANSWER: If the wrestler’s established minimum weight, at 7% for males and 12% for females is within nine tenths of a pound over one of the weight classes, that weight class shall be the wrestler’s minimum weight class. (Wrestler weighs 125.9 or less; minimum weight class = 125). NOTE: This applies only to the season ending Minimum Wrestling Weight as listed on the form. It does not apply as the wrestler loses weight during the season. For example: The above wrestler’s minimum weight on Day 80 may be 130.2. On that date the wrestler may wrestle in the 135 or 140 pound weight classes. The nine tenths of a pound does not apply until the wrestler reaches the Minimum Wrestling Weight. Once the wrestler reaches the Minimum Wrestling Weight After Deadline it applies the remainder of the season.

This is off of MSHSAA website. In this example the lowest weight this wrestler can compete in is 125 with variance. This wrestler weighs 130.2 on day 80 of his weight management plan and is eligible to wrestle 135 or 140. If he follows his weight management plan he should be able to drop to 125 even if he weighed in at 130.2 and wrestles 140.

[legrider]

Leader you are almost correct! He is going down and if allowed by his body fat he is alright. Now say if he goes back up and wrestles 189 then 171 and 189 are his 2 weights. Right now his 2 body weights would be 160 and 171.

Here is a copy of a question/answer with an example from MSHSAA Question and Answers section.

17. QUESTION: What is the consequence if a wrestler weighs-in or wrestles at a higher weight class then the two weight classes listed on the Weight Loss Plan? (Example: 125 and 130 are the weight classes listed on the Weight Loss Plan but the wrestler either weighs-in at 135 or weighs-in at 130 and wrestles at 135.)

ANSWER: The consequence or penalty is that the wrestler has now changed his minimum weight class for the remainder of the season to the 130 pound weight class and is no longer eligible to wrestle in the 125 pound weight class or lower.

Hope this helps.

[Goodoldboy]

I called Dale Pleimann today to confire, I misunderstood. Weither or not you have ever wrestled at your lowest weight, once you reach that day, you cannot wrestle above the two given weights without recertifying. If Weight loss plan said 171/189 for the wrestler who competed at 189 he is ok. As he reach apoint where his plan said 160/171 he can no longer go 189 with out recertifying at 171. If his plan said 160/171 and he wrestled 189 he is SOL if he wants to go 160! :-({|=

[plarm]

Actually, there is more to it than that. On the NWCA website, (where the alpha list is posted) there is an individual weight plan for every wrestler that has had an assessment. On any given day of the season, there are two "eligible" weight classes listed (by date). A wrestler wrestling above those two classes, regardless of what their weigh-in weight is on that day, would give up the eligibility for the lower class for the entire season.

However, depending on body fat, the weight plan will allow a wrestler to lose weight at a rate of 1.5% per week down to a minimum allowable weight class for that wrestler. So early in the season, the eligible weight classes for a wrestler might be 130 and 135. Later in the season, the eligible weight classes may drop, and could conceivably go to 119 and 125. It would take a fairly high percent of body fat and several weeks for that to happen for a 135 pounder to be allowed to drop that far. When I spoke with Dale Pleimann last week, I found that a wrestler could weigh below the minimum allowable weight for that day, as long as it does not drop him down to a lower weight class.

According to the MSSHA website, coaches are supposed to write the minimum allowable weight for the date of the match in the left hand side next to the wrestlers name on the Alpha list, and give one copy to both the ref and the other coach.

[plarm]

Let me even clear it up a bit more. There is both a "minimum allowable weight" and a "minimum allowable weight class" for each wrestler for the season, which will not change. There is also a minimum weight for every day and a minimum weight class for each day, which can and will change each day, until the minimum weight is reached. Wrestlers can be below the allowable weight, but never below the allowable weight class. The weight classes can change from week to week. That is why coaches are supposed to write the minimum allowable weight for that match on the alpha list.

Therefore, what Marshall did certainly could be within the rules. Without seeing the minimum allowable weight for those wrestlers on that day, we have no way of knowing. This is something that the officials will not check, it is up to coaches to regulate. Thus, if a coach provides the proper information to the other coach, it will be clear. However, from what I'm seeing, other coaches often are not writing in the minimum allowable weight for the day, because it has not been made clear that this is what should happen. Therefore, you can not tell form the Alpha list whether the kid is wrestling in the correct weight for that day. See question 13, in the FAQ's--http://www.mshsaa.org/News/index.asp?ID=1172