Pelosi Puts Weight Behind Murtha in Leader Bid

[oldtimer]

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), in line to become Speaker in January, is throwing her support to Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) in the race for Majority Leader, a move that will be an early test of her influence and will weigh heavily on Murtha's contest with Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) for the post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/Politics

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/brea ... 974-1.html (http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/15974-1.html)

Didn't see that one coming!

[BoogieMom]

We're doomed.

Tonite at 6 p.m. and then again at 8 on Headline News, Glenn Beck will have a special show on Terrorists. It ought to be pretty good. It is film footage of their extremism.

The Dems are already trying to set a timeline for pulling out of Iraq. They didn't learn a thing from Vietnam. It's unreal. If these idiots would just let the military do their job, and quit looking at which way the wind blows, it would probably be over with by now.

[swormer]

The Dems are already trying to set a timeline for pulling out of Iraq.

I haven't seen a timeline, what are you referring to?

If these idiots would just let the military do their job, and quit looking at which way the wind blows, it would probably be over with by now.

If you are referring to the idiots who were in control during the last 3 and a half years of this war, I agree. Perhaps we should give them a chance to do what the majority of America elected them to do. All this blatant bipartisan crap needs to stop. I don't mean to come down on BoogieMom but I am getting real sick of people (I mean normal everday people whom I deal with on a daily basis) bitching and moaning about the other political party. Like the one they support is their favorite sports team and that they can do no wrong. Its like they will consider it a victory if the Dems fall flat on their face. BoogieMom I am not attacking you personally, it just really irks me to hear crap like this when even our President last week at least acted like he was willing to work together.

[legrider]

The Dems are already trying to set a timeline for pulling out of Iraq.

I haven't seen a timeline, what are you referring to?

If these idiots would just let the military do their job, and quit looking at which way the wind blows, it would probably be over with by now.

If you are referring to the idiots who were in control during the last 3 and a half years of this war, I agree. Perhaps we should give them a chance to do what the majority of America elected them to do. All this blatant bipartisan crap needs to stop. I don't mean to come down on BoogieMom but I am getting real sick of people (I mean normal everday people whom I deal with on a daily basis) bitching and moaning about the other political party. Like the one they support is their favorite sports team and that they can do no wrong. Its like they will consider it a victory if the Dems fall flat on their face. BoogieMom I am not attacking you personally, it just really irks me to hear crap like this when even our President last week at least acted like he was willing to work together.

You are right! Unlike what the Democrats did. They didn't even pretend to work together! :roll:

[swormer]

You are right! Unlike what the Democrats did. They didn't even pretend to work together! :roll:

My point about the favorite sports team crap was just proven.

[legrider]

it just really irks me to hear crap like this when even our President last week at least acted like he was willing to work together.

Swormer no different than your post that Our President "AT LEAST" acted like he was willing to work together. :roll:

If you were truly peeved why wouldn't you have given our President the benefit of the doubt? Where does "at least acted like". This is a form of an OXIMORON in my opinion! You beat up on people for doing something and in the same sentence you do the same thing! :roll: I think your true stance actually came out unintentional!

[swormer]

it just really irks me to hear crap like this when even our President last week at least acted like he was willing to work together.

Swormer no different than your post that Our President "AT LEAST" acted like he was willing to work together. :roll:

If you were truly peeved why wouldn't you have given our President the benefit of the doubt? Where does "at least acted like". This is a form of an OXIMORON in my opinion! You beat up on people for doing something and in the same sentence you do the same thing! :roll: I think your true stance actually came out unintentional!

Good point, it does sound that way, what I actually meant though was our President being the strong willed, sometimes die hard Republican conservative that he is (and I don't mean that as a slap) was still able to swallow his pride for at least a little bit. You can't tell me you think he likes this situation. I doubt that he does, if I were him I would hate it. The point I was trying to make is that we (the common people of America) are becoming like fans of our political parties not willing to accept defeat, always making excuses and always putting down the other side. Both Dems and Reps are guilty of this. We argue and put down each other's political affiliation for whatever reason, to make ourselves feel better or to make the other parties people feel worse, I don't know.

I am willing to bet, legrider that we are not that different of people with comparible backgrounds and lifestyles and moral judgement. We only differ on a few things but the main one being political parties.

[legrider]

Swormer,

I do agree with you. I think the President will do what he said as far as working together. Unlike the the lack of co-operation he got from the Democrats and dragging their feet. Their whole agenda was how do we get control not what can we do to make America better.

I was glad to see Webb step aside gracefully instead of dragging out a recount, swearing up and down that he had been cheated, etc.

I do believe they call it taking the high road for the good of the American people. [-o<

[BoogieMom]

First, I wanted to say that the Glenn Beck thing is tomorrow night.

Then, I said:
If these idiots would just let the military do their job, and quit looking at which way the wind blows, it would probably be over with by now.

I am referring to CONGRESS as idiots. Not just Democrats. Sorry.

And, it looks like Carl Levin will be the next Armed Services Committee Chairman and he made a statement as how he wants to start redeployment in as little as 4 months.

I think this is a HUGE error in judgement.

I am very disappointed in the way the Republicans have handled their time as majority power. They spent too much money, the immigration policy is out of control and they dilly-dallied around with this war.

This is what I think: I honestly believe that the more the media shows Iraqi women and children getting killed, the more the American people lose their stomach for "war." Remember in that first big assault on Falluja, the insurgents were using women and children as shields. The media showed them getting killed and wounded, and conveniently left out the part about the human shields.

Now, we all know that the media distorted the information about our victories in Vietnam - especially the Tet offensive - remember that? We know that was blatantly lied about to the American people. The military needs to be able to go in and win. I hate that there would be civilian casualties, but it has to be done. How many lives will be saved in the long run? What if they had not decided to drop the nukes on Japan? How long would that war have drug out? How many more Allied lives would have been lost? You have to pick sides. You have to in order to win. Like Reagan said, "Peace thru strength."

[swormer]

BoogieMom, if that was what you had said in your first post I wouldn't have posted what I did, instead I would have agreed with you whole-heartedly. To completely pull out would be a grave mistake and I too believe the media has a liberal slant against this war. The media is one of the biggest problems in this country today, they are way too opionated when reporting and then they spin it to seem like they aren't being opionated. They never seem to tell the whole truth. I truly believe most of America is very central in thinking and the media and politicians tend to lean right or left of center which causes problems.

[oxman]

swormer---Your sports analogy was a good one..... :)
I have really been turned off to National politics for about 15 years now.
So many people buy into the ENTIRE agenda of the party which they prefer.
How illogical is that?
Sure, it makes sense to agree with most of your party's position, but how can you agree with ALL???
I have been absolutely amazed at the way President Bush has been treated in the media and on this forum.
It sickens me to hear such insults thrown out against our own President.
I think that President Bush has been an average president.
But, I really don't want a President that does a LOT of stuff.
He has governed from the middle and that is where I am politically.
I prefer the government to stay out of my life as much as possible and
just let me keep MY OWN money and let me solve my own problems.

It is funny that Democrats are calling for bi-partisanship now that they are in power.
The Democrats have spent six years obstructing anything that President Bush tries to do.
They have spent 12 years obstructing a Republican congress.

President Bush has spent 6 years trying to govern from the MIDDLE.
This strategy I think works great for a Democrat, but NOT for a Republican.

President Clinton gained many Republican followers, by governing from the middle,
without losing much support from his base. In other words, he gained more than he lost.

President Bush has gained very little support from Democrats. They absolutely hate the guy.
They have blamed President Bush for EVERYTHING!
Heck, if a dang meteor were to strike the U. S., they would say it was Bush's fault.... :)
There has been NO BI-PARTISONSHIP offered by the Democrats for 12 years.
They do not concede defeat gracefully, nor do they resign during scandals.
Did William Jefferson EVER resign?.......Sandy Berger?
Heck, Harry Reed's financial indiscretions have evidently been rewarded
with him being selected Majority Leader of the Senate, today.

President Bush has been one of the most LIBERAL Republicans ever elected!!!!
Has this endeared the Democrats to him?????....NO!!...NO!...NO!!
They absolutely despise the guy.
Any mention of the great economy for the last 6 years?

I would really like to discuss issues, without talking about Democrat or Republican.
But, on the National level, the average politician of BOTH parties vote with their party's position about 95% of the time.
That seems illogical to me, and purely political.
Just thinkin...Actually rambling..... :)
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[T.D.C.Dad]

Oxman, why do you want and go and say something like that for. :)

[fudge tunnel]

Pelosi wants Jack Murtha and Alcie Hastings to be heads in the House....

These 2 guys' history of bribery, corruption and impeachment make Tom Delay and Bill Frist look like Mother Teresa and the Dalai Lama by comparison....

This is going to be interesting....

[oxman]

Oxman, why do you want and go and say something like that for. :)TDC---I'm a bad man......sorry.... :)
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[oldtimer]

Pelosi wants Jack Murtha and Alcie Hastings to be heads in the House....

These 2 guys' history of bribery, corruption and impeachment make Tom Delay and Bill Frist look like Mother Teresa and the Dalai Lama by comparison....

This is going to be interesting....

This why she can hide her own faults. She knows if she took the top seat, she be out in months.

[oxman]

I feel so much better now..................... :)

New Speaker of the House...Nancy Pelosi:
"The Republicans are mired in a culture of corruption."
"I will drain the swamp of corruption in Congress."
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/nancy_pelosi.jpg
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ans ... 111506.htm (http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ans-cover-news111506.htm)

Nancy's choice for House Majority leader...Jack Murtha:
http://www.foxnews.com/images/238878/0_ ... a_jack.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/images/238878/0_61_murtha_jack.jpg)
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10077
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Murth ... _1115.html (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Murtha_reportedly_called_Dem_ethics_lobbying_1115. html)

New Senate Majority Leader...Harry Reid:
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/reid-grim.jpg
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/200 ... ort_1.html (http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/abramoff_report_1.html)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10162006/po ... rissey.htm (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10162006/postopinion/opedcolumnists/reids_smelly_windfall_opedcolumnists_ed_morrissey. htm)

Nancy's choice for Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee...Alcee Hastings:
http://apdigpol.ap.org/election_photo/874.jpg
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/200611 ... -6419r.htm (http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061113-094609-6419r.htm)

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[RP-in-Nebraska]

The scandal of Republican Congressmen who went on an all-expenses-paid golf vacation with Abramoff and Foley's zexual talk with a 16 year old pales in comparison to Murtha dealing with undercover FBI agents for money negotiations in the Abscam scandal. Yet, here we are with Murtha as house majority leader. (Not that what those republicans did was right, it's simply two distinct separate unequal levels of "wrongness".)

[oxman]

Hoyer wins House Majority Leader over Murtha.
Is this a setback for Pelosi and the Democrats?
I personally think Hoyer is the better man.
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[BoogieMom]

Hoyer is the better man. Let's see what happens.

[Denmom]

Democrats embraced Rep. Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) as the first woman House speaker in history on Thursday, then quickly snubbed her, selecting Steny Hoyer of Maryland as majority leader against her wishes.



Hummmmm, guess they don't like her opinions. That should go over really well.

[swormer]

I think this is a good thing. It shows that she is not going to be able to get away with everything under sun. She leans way left and hopefully there are enough central Dems to keep her in check.

[T.D.C.Dad]

I gave Bush the 3.25 years of support before I started doubting his qualification and motives to be president.

You guy's didn't even give Dem's 3 day's before you started degrading them in there role as majority leaders. [-X


Think I will go and read Ox's post again surly I must of missed something. :smt102

[RP-in-Nebraska]

I gave Bush the 3.25 years of support before I started doubting his qualification and motives to be president.

You guy's didn't even give Dem's 3 day's before you started degrading them in there role as majority leaders. [-X


It's not the 3 days that concerns us, it's the previous 20 to 30 years of radical and/or unscrupulous behavior by a few democrats that makes us cringe.