Lee's Summit Christmas tournament [Archive]

jonathan

10-27-2005, 09:23 AM

How will the tournament be this year?
Any new teams?
Did any teams drop out

Here's what I got so far:
5 States, 24 teams
Dec 16-17

Oakville, MO
Mustang, OK
Francis Howell Central, MO
Ft Zumwalt West, MO
Blue Springs, mo
Blue Springs South, MO
Plattsburg, MO
Platte County, MO
Fox, MO
Shawnee Heights, KS
Parkway South, MO
Lee's Summit, MO
Lee's Summit North, MO
Winnetonka, MO
Creston, IA
Oak Park, MO
Leavenworth, KS
Hutchinson, KS
MICDS, MO
Eureka, MO
Ray Pec, MO
Centerville, MO
Jeff City, MO

Greg

10-27-2005, 02:15 PM

The two weight classes I am following the closest this year (103/112) are going to be very tough in this tournament. 103 is going to be especially tough. That is probably true about most if not all of the weight classes, but I don't follow the other weight classes as close to make a knowledgeable statement.

Warren Haynes

10-27-2005, 02:55 PM

when did blue springs and oak park stop cycling back and forth between lee's summit and ray south.

10-27-2005, 03:06 PM

when did blue springs and oak park stop cycling back and forth between lee's summit and ray south.

When the Ray South Tourn started to suck

cmsu34

10-27-2005, 04:15 PM

no park hill? I thought they were there last year.

jonathan

10-27-2005, 05:03 PM

add park hill, i forgot to post them

rule1

10-27-2005, 05:14 PM

To all, who would you like to see in the finals, by weight?

PantherHawk

10-28-2005, 09:15 AM

I think Centerville will have a chance to have a finalist at 125 State Champ 130State Champ- 135State Runner-up

RP-in-Nebraska

10-28-2005, 09:55 AM

The entire tournament is very competitive but DEPENDING on what weights the wrestlers end up, there could be extremely heavy competition in the 119 to 140 pound classes. The following are returning Missouri state medalists: Oak Park will have O’Donnell, Nay, Nay, Joiner; FZW will have Warner, Gagliano, Weist, and maybe Wolfrum; Park Hill will have Carr, Graham, Graham; Green from Oakville; Shaffer from Ray-Pec; St. Louis from Platte County. Those Centerville wrestlers will most likely meet some very stiff competition.

Bob Pollock

10-28-2005, 11:03 AM

10-28-2005, 11:05 AM

Why are we saying maybe on Wolfrum?
I"m not sure if your allowed to ask that here

RP-in-Nebraska

10-28-2005, 11:42 AM

Aaron Ely, last years 103 champion from Leavenworth should be back.
-Not sure if Edmonds or Riffle from Mustang were Seniors last year.
-Let's not forget Robbie Hicklin at Park Hill.
-Looks like all of the Shawnee medalist graduated.
-Lee's Summit will have some retuning medalist and qualifiers, Gudde, Caswell and Budd.
-Jeff City and Blue Springs will have multiple qualifiers from last year.
-I thought MG from FZW was out for a while. Why are we saying maybe on Wolfrum?

My post was concerning the 119 to 140 pound brackets in response to the previous post concerning the 125, 130, and 135 pound weight classes. The "maybe" on Wolfrum was because I don't have any idea what weight he'll be - he was 140 last year, right? I am assuming that he has probably grown enough to be out of the 119 to 140 pound weight classes. I didn't forget about Hicklin, I intentionally did not include him because I assume he'll be well out of the 119 to 140 range since he was the 152 pound champ last year. Finally, I didn't list any of the qualifiers - only the returning Missouri state medalists for those weights.

Bob Pollock

10-28-2005, 12:26 PM

mat rat 140

10-29-2005, 12:22 AM

danny timms is back at chrisman

RP-in-Nebraska

10-29-2005, 02:56 PM

There's no doubt this tournament is loaded with great wrestlers. Darn near as competitive as the state class 4 and class 3 tournaments.

Bob Pollock

10-31-2005, 07:09 AM

RP-in-Nebraska

10-31-2005, 07:43 AM

Why not?

Is any school taking their place?

fudge tunnel

10-31-2005, 08:02 AM

Is any school taking their place?

Adrian

Bob Pollock

10-31-2005, 09:10 AM

Jerry Langdon

10-31-2005, 11:07 AM

Wentzville Holt has it on their schedule.

zone

10-31-2005, 11:08 AM

Ryan Farwell- Plattsburg, Shane Nay – OAKP Brandon Wiest – FZW Eric Graham – PRKH. That’s worth going for. I wonder if they will all be at the same weight this year.

fudge tunnel

10-31-2005, 12:56 PM

Ryan Farwell- Plattsburg

Apparently, Plattsburg is not coming back. Farwell didn't make out of the pool round last year.

Bob Pollock

10-31-2005, 01:10 PM

MG_Grievous

10-31-2005, 01:32 PM

Bob, long time no see.

Glad to have you back.

Bob Pollock

10-31-2005, 02:16 PM

MG_Grievous

10-31-2005, 02:23 PM

BTW, you need to get after those coaches to post their schedules.

:partyman:

fudge tunnel

10-31-2005, 03:50 PM

BTW, you need to get after those coaches to post their schedules.

You need to get after the administrator of this site to get his schedule thingy working...... :twisted:

jonathan

10-31-2005, 04:01 PM

:smt013

Bob Pollock

11-04-2005, 11:12 AM

BadBoy

11-04-2005, 11:26 AM

Kyle Mears is no longer at Eureka

RP-in-Nebraska

11-04-2005, 11:37 AM

There are a bunch of returning qualifiers/medalists - especially in the lower weights (from 103 up to 135). Depending on what weights those kids wrestle at this tournament, there may be some state medalists that don't make it out of their bracket! This is a tough, tough tournament.

Bob Pollock

11-04-2005, 01:25 PM

BadBoy

11-04-2005, 01:47 PM

If you are going to add in freshmen and Eureka is going to be there, add in the Lester twins.

preceptor

11-04-2005, 01:49 PM

Holt high school is rejoining lee's summit and has four returning state qualifiers.
Pete Iwen 103
Kyle Ream 130
Logan Goldstein 135
Eric Gibson 152

Greg

11-04-2005, 02:22 PM

Bob one wrestler the Mustangs have that will be missed is Josh Haugen who took 2nd at USA Nationals last year. The following are the only freshman I know of that could make an impact. I may be missing some in that it is not always obvious what school a kid is going into out of little league. In a tournament of this magnitude normally it is only the lower weight freshman who can make an impact, and so I only listed 119 and below freshman.

FZW: Chase Houdaschelt, Taylor Bolin
FHC: Kyle Bradley, Sean Kennedy
OP: Joe Green, Mac Bailey, Cody Tyler. I am not sure if Marty Uehlin (sp.) is a freshman or sophomore, but regardless he could make an impact.

Bob Pollock

11-04-2005, 02:36 PM

updated

rapidfire

11-04-2005, 05:52 PM

Is Warner willing to wrestle Sebolt, are will he be hurt?

RandyReversal

11-05-2005, 03:31 PM

I believe Warner would not dodge Hulk Hogan.

Sarge

11-05-2005, 07:39 PM

Lindbergh is joining the Lee's Summit Tournament

wrestlefan19

11-05-2005, 09:11 PM

Is Warner willing to wrestle Sebolt, are will he be hurt?

that comment was incredibly ignorant especially considering the events at state last year
if you wrestled 10$ says Warner would have throttled you
you should be ashamed of that moronic comment

Wannabee

11-06-2005, 06:17 AM

I say he will have a bad cold again, if you know what I mean! :lol:

Bob Pollock

11-07-2005, 06:18 AM

WESTONE

11-08-2005, 11:12 AM

Is Warner willing to wrestle Sebolt, are will he be hurt?

WHAT'S YOUR REAL ISSUE?

rapidfire

11-08-2005, 03:14 PM

Westnone, it'd be a great matchup, but I hesitate to believe it will happen.

C4D4

11-08-2005, 07:28 PM

My picks are 103 Nick Lester, 112 Aaron Ely, 119 Tyler St. Louis, 125 Reid Garcia, 130 T. J. Seibolt, 135 Nick Pickerell, 140 Brandon Weist, 145 Shane Nay, 152 Justin Wolfrum, 160 Robbie Hicklin, 171 Kendall Burke, 189 Adam Meredith, 215 Kyle Rose, 275 Jake Mallonee.

ARM BAR

11-08-2005, 08:08 PM

C4D4 - What about E. Warner and S. Odonnell , Both Graham's , D. Joiner ? Are Gagliano and Z . Bailey both out for sure ?

C4D4

11-08-2005, 08:17 PM

Not for sure on Gagliano and Bailey but pretty sure. One of the Grahams will not be there, not sure which one. Again, I am pretty sure. Not sure where Scotty will be so I am a little reluctant. Dylan will do well.

Smith

11-08-2005, 08:35 PM

Tyler St Louis will be at 130-135.

C4D4

11-09-2005, 10:26 AM

Tyler St Louis will be at 130-135.

How many returning State Champions could we possibly see in these classes? :smt100

wrestlefan19

11-10-2005, 09:10 AM

is there a reason warner wont be there or are you still thinking he is going to dodge people?

Warner was going to go 19 not sure if he still is I see him as the favorite there Scotty O prolly 25

Patriotfan

11-10-2005, 11:11 AM

I would say Reid Garcia over Scott O'Donnell at 125

RP-in-Nebraska

11-10-2005, 11:32 AM

Do you think Garcia has improved enough since last year's state finals match to beat O'Donnell? I know that they have both been wrestling in the off-season. Just curious.

fudge tunnel

11-10-2005, 12:53 PM

I would say Reid Garcia over Scott O'Donnell at 125

:D

Patriotfan

11-10-2005, 01:44 PM

I'm sure they have both improved and both have wrestled in offseason. They have wrestled twice in the past two state tournaments and I would definitely say it is Reid's time to shine... it however be a great match

Fist of Love

11-10-2005, 01:58 PM

They have wrestled twice in the past two state tournaments and I would definitely say it is Reid's time to shine...

.....and WHY exactly is it Reid's time to shine? O'Donnell pinned him @ LS tourny last year, and Garcia couldn't score an offensive point on him @ state last year. Please explain to us why and how he's going to be O'Donnell.

Patriotfan

11-10-2005, 02:42 PM

Not to take anything away from Scott b/c he did win after all, but the way I see it is that the matches at state were close and Scott stalled his way to a win. I'm sure it was strategic, Reid knows how Scott will wrestle and improved greatly so in my opinion Reid will win. At Lee Summit Reid made a few mistakes that unfortunately cost him the match. Now I am entitled to my own opinion and so I believe that Reid will win it all this year.

fudge tunnel

11-10-2005, 02:45 PM

Scott stalled his way to a win.

:lol:

RP-in-Nebraska

11-10-2005, 04:16 PM

I didn't see the match, but knowing how quickly that MO refs call stalling, I would guess that your assertion that he stalled his way to the title probably isn't entirely true - at least not to the objective observer.

But, good luck to both of them at this tourney. I'm sure that if they do meet up, it will be a great match regardless of who wins.

Patriotfan

11-10-2005, 04:50 PM

I'm not saying that Scott didn't win, and I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win either, they both wrestled a hard-fought match and Scott was able to put more points on the board. What I am saying is that how their previous encounters ended up is irrelevant and they are on a clean slate for the year. I am humbly expressing my opinion in that I believe Reid will pull away with the win, no need for explanation there.

MG_Grievous

11-10-2005, 04:54 PM

Stalling is an art.

Once mastered, it is a great tool.

Until.....Rallo.

Bob Pollock

11-10-2005, 05:21 PM

Bob Pollock

11-10-2005, 06:08 PM

Smith

11-10-2005, 08:41 PM

Patriot--- Thank you.

graham

11-22-2005, 01:22 PM

Smith is that on the inside of Scotty's locker

pintowin7689

11-24-2005, 02:32 AM

Does any one know who the contenders will be at the heavy weight division? I know about the Missouri wrestlers but I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the heavy weight wrestlers from different states.

Bob Pollock

11-24-2005, 06:23 AM

wrestlefan19

11-24-2005, 10:19 AM

Stalling is an art.

Once mastered, it is a great tool.

amen brother

BigD

11-28-2005, 04:05 PM

Does anyone know the "round" times for this tournament yet? I saw on LS's website that it starts on 12/16 at 3PM and 12/17 at 9AM, but was curious if there was a breakdown for the days. I know that every match will be exciting in this tournament, but I will be driving in from St. Louis and would like to at least catch the Semi's and Finals. Any info provided is appreciated. Thanks.

Dave

mlundy

11-30-2005, 07:12 AM

Dave -
Last year's finals round started at about 5:00pm. The championship, 3rd and 5th place matches were all wrestled at the same time during this round on 3 mats. If you are at the fieldhouse by 4:00pm Saturday you shouldn't miss any any of that. :D

obnoxio

11-30-2005, 01:26 PM

Is the *fieldhouse* different from the high school gym?

Smith

11-30-2005, 01:31 PM

No, thats the same thing there at LS.

mlundy

11-30-2005, 02:41 PM

Nope! Fieldhouse is our main gym and is where the finals will be. Lower wieghts will wrestle earlier rounds in another gym. I'll post approximate round times when I get them on our site - http://www.tigerswrestling.net.

Mark

The Stat Man

11-30-2005, 05:29 PM

mlundy, the week of the tourney are you going to post the seeds or brackets before the tourney begins? thanks

mlundy

11-30-2005, 06:38 PM

Brackets most likely will not be finalized until right before the tourney starts on the 16th, after weigh-ins, and I'll post them then.

obnoxio

11-30-2005, 06:40 PM

More than one gym? Can you post a map too?

mlundy

11-30-2005, 07:13 PM

No, but there will be plenty of signs directing you towards the other gym on the days of the tourney! :D

swmo fan

12-01-2005, 08:05 PM

130
01 TJ Sebolt (Sr.) - Centerville
135
01 Nick Pickerell (Sr.) - Centerville

Seabolt and Pickerell both won first at the Cliff Keen Kick-off in Tulsa.

I was on the plane with them from Chicago to Tulsa and both seemed like nice kids. For HS boys anyway. Seabolt seemed small for 130.

Nice or not I want some MO boys to take them down!

pop0319

12-02-2005, 01:00 PM

First of all...Sebolt & Pickerell were never on a plane to Tulsa. Second of all...Sebolt may look small fully dressed but looks massive in a singlet. He is cutting HARD to get to 130. I do agree they are pretty good kids though.

obnoxio

12-02-2005, 01:11 PM

I give.....So, how'd they get to Tulsa?

klhill

12-02-2005, 02:19 PM

Hey SWMO fan, pop just called you a liar. Are you a liar?

pop0319

12-02-2005, 02:23 PM

THey both rode down with both of their parents. Not calling anyone a liar...just stating facts.

swmo fan

12-03-2005, 10:08 AM

It must have been another kid pretending, which might explain why he looked pretty small to me. He did have Centerville Wrestling stuff and he and his Dad (never saw a Mom) were on my flight (American Airlines from Chicago into Tulsa) which arrived in Tulsa about 2pm. There were other wrestlers with them as well.

No need for me to lie, what would I get from claiming to know a HS kid?

IAWRFAN

12-07-2005, 08:10 AM

This tournament is right around the corner!! Who will be some of the key match-ups? Creston and Centerville will be bringing several good kids down, just wondering where MO's powerhouses will be. Looking at last year will anyone give Sebolt a match this year? This is always a great tournament and I'm looking forward to coming down and watching!!

mlundy

12-07-2005, 08:23 AM

RP-in-Nebraska

12-07-2005, 08:27 AM

Actually, every school competing in this is at least average or better. Oak Park (1st in state class 4) will be the team to beat - ranked 8th nationally. Fort Zumwalt West (2nd in state class 4), I believe, is also nationally ranked in the top 30? Other Missouri "powerhouses" include Park Hill (1st in state class 3), Ray-Pec (2nd at state class 3), and a few others. Numerous other Missouri and Kansas state champs and medalists will be there from some of the other 20 schools listed as well. This is one of the premier tournaments in Missouri. I think T.J. will have a little bit of competition at least. :-)

fudge tunnel

12-07-2005, 08:47 AM

....don't forget Platte Co. (1st in Class 2). It's possible that O'Donnell, St Louis and Sebolt will all be at 130. Too bad Carr is out.

wrestler'08

12-07-2005, 09:01 AM

Is Andy Corbin-Jeff City still wrestling?

Class_3_Fan

12-07-2005, 09:15 AM

Is Andy Corbin-Jeff City still wrestling?

No

Bob Pollock

12-07-2005, 10:16 AM

Warner

12-07-2005, 01:31 PM

Bob,
Do you have team line-ups for the tournament yet?

Bob Pollock

12-07-2005, 02:36 PM

Bob Pollock

12-07-2005, 02:59 PM

fudge tunnel

12-07-2005, 05:49 PM

ya, I heard something about O'Donnell being at 119 for LSX, then going up. Could be wrong though. Should be interesting.....

Bob Pollock

12-07-2005, 09:51 PM

Updated

fowler

12-08-2005, 05:33 AM

If you want to something interesting look at this list then go look at the list of Brute Adidas Nationals All-Americans in the C2 thread in "MY FIRST GUESS".

fowler

12-08-2005, 05:39 AM

By the way,,,,most of the PC heavier kids will be probably be down on their regular season weight. With football season they did not have time to get to reglular weights last week or practice. Look for a MUCH tougher PC team.

RP-in-Nebraska

12-08-2005, 08:05 AM

Ely took 2nd at the Leavenworth Tourney at 119. He got pinned by Livengood (another KS wrestler) in overtime.

Asa Shaffer wrestled at 125 in the Leavenworth Tourney. I don't know how he placed but somebody on the Kansas wrestling site was proud to announce that Tanenbaum beat him 7-1.

mlundy

12-08-2005, 10:29 AM

Hey, IAWRFAN, bring all your friends, because, this tourney's going to be a barn-burner. Take a look at our web site - http://www.tigerswrestling.net. Bob, IAWRFAN is beggin' to see that LSX qualifiers spreadsheet! :D ! Send it to me and maybe I can find a good spot for it on our web.

I will update it and send it tonight Mark.

I got a page published for results, scores, photos and stories on our site - 2005 Christmas Invitational Page (http://www.tigerswrestling.net/lshs/christmasInvitational/christmasInvitational.html). There's also a link to it from our home page. Mark

The Stat Man

12-08-2005, 07:03 PM

does anybody have the results for the 2002 lsx tourney?

IAWRFAN

12-09-2005, 08:29 AM

Bob, Here's an update as far as Iowa boys and where they'll be. At least this is where they have been wrestling.

Creston:
Andrew Long 103
Tyler Linderman 112
Quin Leith 119
Stoney Stuart 130
Bret Kautz 135
Caleb Brus 145
Blake Miller 160

Centerville:
T. J. Sebolt 130
Nick Pickerell 135
Jordan Neer 140
Tony Lovstuen 145

I thought Bailey was out until after Christmas and I also thought Tyler St. Louis was at 130. If he is 130 will be stacked.

Bob Pollock

12-09-2005, 09:43 AM

RP-in-Nebraska

12-09-2005, 09:57 AM

Just for the fun of it, here are the team scores from last year.

1st Oak Park, MO 372.5
2nd Ray-Pec, MO 295.5
3rd Ft. Zumwalt West, MO 277.5
4th Shawnee Heights, KS 257.5
5th Platte County, MO 254.0
6th Park Hill, MO 251.0
7th Lee's Summit, MO 240.0
8th Jefferson City, MO 226.5
9th Fox/Arnold, MO 222.0
10th Francis Howell Central, MO 194.5
11th Mustang, OK 171.0
12th Hutchinson, KS 167.0
13th Centerville, IA 161.0
14th Creston, IA 147.5
15th Eureka, MO 146.5
16th Leavenworth, KS 139.0
17th Oakville, MO 131.5
18th Winnetonka, MO 128.0
19th Blue Springs South, MO 124.0
20th Parkway South, MO 116.5
21st MICDS, MO 98.0
22nd Lee's Summit North, MO 92.5
23rd Plattsburg, MO 84.0
24th Bonner Springs, MO 68.5

Bob Pollock

12-13-2005, 11:00 AM

Bob Pollock

12-14-2005, 06:42 PM

tsu86

12-15-2005, 07:10 AM

Based primarily on the list you just provided:
Wt.-1-4
103-Bradley, Bailey, Waters, Forrest
112-Benenati, Lester, Uehlin, Delarbar
119-Ely, Warner, Leith, Green
125-Nay, Bolin, Shaffer, Iwen
130-Sebolt, Odonnel, St. Louis, Garcia
135-Pickerell, Joiner, Gudde, Moyer
140-Fowler, Kemp, Neumann, Neer
145-Nay, Weist, Graham, Isringhausen
152-Wolfrum, Hall, Brengle, Diekhaus
160-Burke, Koelling, Hicklin, Campbell
171-Haynes, Sumner, Henson, Ortiz
189-Cole, Kingsolver, Meredith, Evans
215-Rose, Snyder, Scheetz, Gebel
HWT-Mallonee, Thompson, Miller, McKinney

Again, this is really based on reputation more than anything. I didn't dive into records and who wrestled who and what not. Just to get the ball rolling. I also know nothing about Iowa.

Some interesting things though: will Bailey be back? Kono? Schmalz?

Smith

12-15-2005, 07:16 AM

Kono will be at 215

howellfan

12-15-2005, 08:15 AM

Where is Z. Bailey?

previous fhc wrestler

12-15-2005, 04:04 PM

This seems to be a tough tournament for 160 not that the rest of the weights are tough but, I was looking from Mike Tracy's point of view. I believe that he will be in the top four though. He is a tough wrestler, he wrestles his best when he doesnt think and just wrestles his heart out. I love to see him when he just wrestles but when he beats himself before he steps on the mat it's not the Tracy that I know and wrestled with. I cant wait to see the results of this tournament it should be a fun one as always. Good luck to FHC.

wrestlefan19

12-15-2005, 05:24 PM

IMO no way will Warner lose

Greg

12-15-2005, 05:33 PM

Ely and Warner will be a great match.

The Stat Man

12-15-2005, 10:49 PM

warner did not look that good tonight he was losing 6-2 and had injury time before he pinned the kid. joe green lost to the same kid 4-2

Bob Pollock

12-15-2005, 10:59 PM

The Stat Man

12-15-2005, 11:57 PM

ya i think warner will do fine and your right i didnt know that kid was as good as he was but i just kind of thought that seeing how tough green wrestled him i thought warner would have done a little more but just IMO. and personally i like warner and i would like to see him get a state title.

Bob Pollock

12-16-2005, 09:12 AM

RP-in-Nebraska

12-16-2005, 09:30 AM

Pollock, Mlundy, KLHill

Are the results from the bracketing/pooling/seeding meeting available?

Bob Pollock

12-16-2005, 09:34 AM

mlundy

12-16-2005, 10:35 AM

Nope, I haven't gotten anything yet. Hope to have some pools posted this afternoon - 2005 LSHS Christmas Invitaional Results Page (http://www.tigerswrestling.net/lshs/christmasInvitational/christmasInvitational.html)

Mark

mlundy

12-16-2005, 04:28 PM

Opening Brackets posted!
http://www.tigerswrestling.net/lshs/christmasInvitational/christmasInvitational.html

Mark

rapidfire

12-16-2005, 06:50 PM

Toad, where's Mac B; did he get hurt in the duel?

mlundy

12-16-2005, 07:03 PM

Round 1 results up. Round two coming soon!

mlundy

12-16-2005, 08:59 PM

Rounds 2 and 3 posted!

Bob Pollock

12-16-2005, 09:27 PM

MartyAz

12-16-2005, 09:49 PM

How about the overall Seedings? How are the Top Seeds distributed thru the Pools?

Bob Pollock

12-16-2005, 10:09 PM

TnT

12-16-2005, 10:18 PM

why isnt sumner wrestling it was said he had staf infection last week but he wrestled on tuesday and tonight he wasnt wrestling did the infection come back?

MartyAz

12-16-2005, 10:22 PM

Bob, I saw that and was wondering. Eichinger has O pts showing in his 2nd Round match against Weist. Thanks.

Bob Pollock

12-17-2005, 09:38 AM

mlundy

12-17-2005, 10:14 AM

Round 4 posted - http://www.tigerswrestling.net/lshs/christmasInvitational/christmasInvitational.html

Bob Pollock

12-17-2005, 10:48 AM

mlundy

12-17-2005, 11:53 AM

Round 5 posted - these DO contain valid championship round brackets

mlundy

12-17-2005, 01:53 PM

Quarter Final results posted!

mlundy

12-17-2005, 03:27 PM

Semis / wrestlebacks posted. Ready for the finals! It's been a h*ll of a semi-final round and we're expeecting some fantastic wrestling competition in the 1st/3rd abd 5th place matches!

MartyAz

12-17-2005, 04:36 PM

How did scoring in the O'Donnel v St. Louis match go down? Anybody?
(How about young Colin Wittmeyer anyway!)

OneShotOneKill

12-17-2005, 04:56 PM

Did Mac Bailey get hurt, I noticed he was not wrestling in this tournament

granted

12-17-2005, 05:12 PM

Mac didnt make weight

fudge tunnel

12-17-2005, 06:25 PM

How did scoring in the O'Donnel v St. Louis match go down? Anybody?

Charlie Rallo/Tyler St Louis 5, Scott O'Donnell 4

Charlie Rallo is making his case for "worst referee" in MO. He's well on his way, w/ Nick Jr not far behind.

Wyatt Pickering

12-17-2005, 06:41 PM

what was the score of the Grahamvs Wiest match before the fall.

mlundy

12-17-2005, 06:42 PM

It's over! Final results are posted.

fudge tunnel

12-17-2005, 06:51 PM

what was the score of the Grahamvs Wiest match before the fall.

It wasn't a fall, it was a default.....hurt ribs. Not sure of the score at the time, might have been 0-0.

RP-in-Nebraska

12-17-2005, 06:56 PM

Looks like OP won by a large margin......without the Baileys.

Park Hill was a point out of 3rd......without 2 returning state champs.

Francis Howell Central coming in 3rd is impressive.

Will a Missouri wrestler ever give T.J. Sebolt a good match? or at least go the distance. What an impressive showing by him.

granted

12-17-2005, 06:59 PM

Will a Missouri wrestler ever give T.J. Sebolt a good match? or at least go the distance. What an impressive showing by him.

Ryan Moyer beat him a few years ago back at 103 his soph. year i believe.

RP-in-Nebraska

12-17-2005, 06:59 PM

Question: Ray-Pec's 140 pounder, Neumann, had the term (SCR) after his name where every other wrestler has his grade. Can anybody tell me what that means.

Bob Pollock

12-17-2005, 07:30 PM

klhill

12-17-2005, 07:36 PM

Scratch, I believe.

klhill

12-17-2005, 07:38 PM

Sorry, didn't see Bob's post.

Celtic

12-17-2005, 07:48 PM

How good was this Sebolt kid!?! Geez, did I see correctly he pinned every opponent, including Tyler St. Louis??? Where is he going to college?

fowler

12-17-2005, 07:57 PM

Iowa State.

Superfly

12-17-2005, 08:02 PM

Can someone please post the results from the tournament? I am having trouble viewing them from the given web site. Thanks.

dnmhc

12-17-2005, 08:19 PM

The website works it just takes a while to load

datawhse

12-17-2005, 08:35 PM

Call Charter. Get DSL.

Bob Pollock

12-17-2005, 08:40 PM

Superfly

12-17-2005, 08:41 PM

It is still not working. I have DSL and it loads part of the way and then it just stops. I'm sorry, but can someone please post the results.

MartyAz

12-17-2005, 08:44 PM

Charlie Rallo/Tyler St Louis 5, Scott O'Donnell 4.

(is this how do you do that quote thing?)

OK, close match that could have gone either way.
Thanks fudge.

I bet the Graham v Nay match was a great match. Two very skilled, strong and aggressive wrestlers. Anyone care to comment on the scoring in this one?

Old Man

12-17-2005, 08:44 PM

did anyone keep track of the Zumwat 119 injury timeouts. Whats up with that

fudge tunnel

12-17-2005, 08:48 PM

I have to agree w/ Pollock on those....Forrest pinning multi time national champ Andrew Long and Lester utterly destroying Benenati. That was a complete a$$kicking!

TJ Sebolt is on a completely different level from the rest of the wrestlers in this tournament. It's hard to equate or quantify, but he might be the best high school wrestler I've ever seen in person. Good golly.

Bob Pollock

12-17-2005, 08:51 PM

Superfly

12-17-2005, 08:52 PM

Can someone please post the results? Thanks.

rule1

12-17-2005, 08:58 PM

TJ Sebolt reminds us all how we were taught to wrestle: TAKEDOWN, WORK FOR A PIN AND GET IT! He has dominated this tournament for the last 3 years, way to go TJ. Good luck at Iowa State.

MartyAz

12-17-2005, 08:59 PM

Superfly, here's the address for the final brackets, type it in to your address bar if you can't link to it.

http://www.tigerswrestling.net./lshs/ch ... /final.htm (http://www.tigerswrestling.net./lshs/christmasInvitational/finals/final.htm)

fudge tunnel

12-17-2005, 09:01 PM

did anyone keep track of the Zumwat 119 injury timeouts.

27

MartyAz

12-17-2005, 09:39 PM

FYI

The HawkEye December 6, 2005:
Sebolt's only loss was an 8–6 decision to Ryan Moyer of Park Hills, Mo., during Sebolt's freshman year. Sebolt has won 137 straight matches and has never lost to an Iowa wrestler.

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Junior National Freestyle Duals Results
ROUND 4
Iowa Gold 44, Team Missouri 19
98 - Dalton Jensen (I) dec. Vito Krischke (M), 17-9
105 - Kody Pudil (I) tech. fall Cody Hogan (M), 13-3
112 - Spenser Mango (M) dec. T.J. Sebolt (I), 9-8

mlundy

12-17-2005, 09:42 PM

TJ Sebolt is a stud. The Cyclones are lucky to have him commited with intent to wrestle there. Whistle, takedown, work to pin. There is no situation that he finds himself in that he cannot work to gain the advantage and work to a pin - end of match. I didn't really think that I could see him better than he was last year when he did the same thing, but he is. This man is Cael good or better. Watch him. I'll get some photos on our site tomorrow.

mlundy

12-17-2005, 09:45 PM

Sebolt was announced (supplied by his coaches) as a 156 straight win wrestler going in to tonight's finals.

fudge tunnel

12-17-2005, 10:02 PM

This man is Cael good or better.

Hmmmm..... :-k .....I don't know if I'd go there just yet....

TZessFZW05

12-18-2005, 06:34 AM

what was the best match you saw at the tournament this weekend?

Brian and Shane was a great match

fowler

12-18-2005, 06:38 AM

With crowd participation for officiating.

fudge tunnel

12-18-2005, 07:21 AM

With crowd participation for officiating.

I've never seen anything like that. You know it's a bad day when Nicky Jr and Charlie make Pee Wee look GOOD..............(by comparison)

fowler

12-18-2005, 07:23 AM

There were worse mistakes made yesterday than that by the table workers. ATLEAST that was corrected.

Bob Pollock

12-18-2005, 07:25 AM

Bob Pollock

12-18-2005, 07:28 AM

fudge tunnel

12-18-2005, 07:30 AM

The Campbell/Hile takedown call at the end of the match was shameful.

The "2 & 1" call in the Nay/Graham match was disgraceful. I'm not saying there wasn't a takedown and escape, but Nicky Jr making the call after the crowd got on him............really ugly.

fowler

12-18-2005, 07:40 AM

Wages/Diekhaus/Fowler matches all could have went either way. The largest offical spread of points was 2 between all matches.
Wages beat Fowler 4-3
Diekhaus beat Wages won by 2 i believe in OT
Diekhaus beat Fowler (DISPUTEDLY) by 2 the dispute is Fowler should have been +2 point takedown that offical awarded but was never awarded at table. Add that to the nearfall where ref counted 5 but awared 2 points. Still it was a good match, no im not trying to take anything away from him he is a good wrestler and i congratulate him.

I would predict that on any given day with these three you will have diffrent winners each time. TOO bad they were all the same pool with Luvstuen, that would have made the finals brackets a whole lot better. Too bad to have 4 top ranked wrestlers in the same pool.

Warren Haynes

12-18-2005, 10:32 AM

fowler

12-18-2005, 11:25 AM

Yes,,,the outside official corrected the call, after the match there appeared to be quite a discussion over it also.

Greg

12-18-2005, 03:54 PM

We always talk about the wrestling side of things, but sometimes things happen away from the mat that are significant.

After Matt's match with Eric Warner, Eric Warner came up to my family and said a few nice things. After he left my mom commented "What a classy kid". I just thought I would pass that along to the Fort Zumwalt folks.

I know there is a great rivalry between FZW and OP, and I would like to say that it is always more enjoyable to me when my kids are in a tournament with these two great programs (and we had teams like Park Hill, RayPec, Fox, Francis Howell Central, etc. to boot). It definitely makes the day more exciting watching the two sides going back and forth. I thought all the Missouri "power programs" had a great weekend.

These past two days were my first experience with the Lee's Summit Tournament and I have to say I came away impressed. It is an extremely well run tournament which has some great high school wrestling. I want to pass on my thanks to everyone who had a hand in running it because it was a great event to attend and watch. My family kept wanting to leave, but I kept creeping back to watch because there kept being great matches LOL. Anyway thanks again for an outstanding event.

Warren Haynes

12-18-2005, 04:48 PM

Mr. Lester, your sons are absolutely amazing. Nick is the most amazing freshman i have seen in my short time in missouri wrestling. What he did in that benanati match was just incredible. a tech pin on a returning state champion, WOW! It seemed that after that first scramble for a takedown, it was over. What a maniac on top. He was my pick for OW. Other observances.

Bearden of Lindbergh, again, wow. Where did this kid come from. He absolutely took it to Wolfrum and absolutely dominated everyone else. In fact i enjoyed the 152 lb bracket considerably. Brengle and Hall was an exceptional 10-9 match. and the Hall Hicklin semi was a great defensive battle.

T.J. Sebolt is amazing and an exceptional pinner.

Best final was at 145, those kids just left it out on the mat and neither seemed to get tired at all. We are very lucky to have two wrestlers like Graham and Nay going at it.

Centerville is extremely tough from 130-140.

Sumner is humongous. Can't wait to see him wrestle with the big boys.

T. Campbell and Mike Tracy traded a pair of close decisions. Seems like a nice rivalry for the rest of the year. And that Romero Cotton is the real deal. Burke had a very nice OT victory over him in the finals.

The heavyweight from Jeff city wrestles very intelligantly. He is a little undersized but won a double OT match with Reo Taylor after dropping a decision to Matt McKinney in the pool rounds.

Oak Park winning this tournament by this wide of a margin missing three likely state medalists (Bailey, Bailey, and Gleason) is extraordinary and they should probably set a new point scoring record at state. What a team. very professional and workmanlike in their approach. Several of their wrestlers seemed to be undersized for their weight classes, but wrestled well just the same.

wrestlefan19

12-18-2005, 04:57 PM

could someone post medal match scores?
the link doesnt show that

underrated east

12-18-2005, 06:43 PM

Bearden of Lindbergh slammed Wolfrum to the mat after he lost, he does not deserve the credit he is given, what a complete unsportsmanlike move, reminded me of state last year.

Greg

12-18-2005, 06:56 PM

Warren thanks for the nice comments about Nick. There were a lot of great wrestlers there his weekend and I was just glad Matt and Nick got to wrestle that level of competition.

coachsdtr

12-19-2005, 06:57 AM

THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT UPDATES ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY - YOU DID A GREAT JOB KEEPING EVERYONE UPDATED.

RP-in-Nebraska

12-19-2005, 07:23 AM

TJ Sebolt reminds us all how we were taught to wrestle: TAKEDOWN, WORK FOR A PIN AND GET IT! He has dominated this tournament for the last 3 years, way to go TJ. Good luck at Iowa State.

Let's hope he's at 174 next year - then maybe Mizzou will have a chance against him. :-)

dbland

12-19-2005, 07:46 AM

Bearden didn't hear the whistle, he just kept wrestling. Should be a fun match to see in the future between him and Wolfrum..

Louden

12-19-2005, 08:51 AM

The Bearden's went to Northwest I believe as freshmen but then had to move to Lindbergh... Image Northwest if they still had the Beardens and didn't lose Joey Frank this year!!! Sigh...

Randy B

12-19-2005, 11:49 AM

Nick Lester definately made a statement this weekend! Nick has always been a very good technical wrestler but He wrestled with more maturity and intensity than I had ever seen. Other than Sebolt he had my endorsement for OW! Also Marty Uehlin, Joe Green, and Matt Lester proved they could wrestle with anybody in the State.

Rick Williams

12-19-2005, 11:57 AM

Those are great points RandyB...the future of Mo wrestling should be fun with youngmen like that continually stepping up...Makes it fun for all of us has beens...as well as the fans

Warren Haynes

12-19-2005, 12:37 PM

Wow, I just saw that Marty Uehlin won state at 130 lbs last year in little league. That is incredible that he is wrestling at 112 lbs this year. He was very impressive this past weekend, beating Benanati and Delarber and only losing to Lester on the weekend. Oak Park's freshman never cease to amaze me.

obnoxio

12-19-2005, 01:33 PM

What?!?!?! The kids wins USA state at 130lbs. as an eight grader and is now wrestling 103lbs. as a freshman???

haleybop

12-19-2005, 01:34 PM

ON THE BEARDON AND WOLFRUM MATCH ,EVERYBODY HEARD THE WHISTLE. BEARDON TOOK HIM DOWN AFTER THE WHISTLE AND THREW A PUNCH. INFACT HIS COACH HAD TO BEAR HUG HIM AND PICK HIM UP OFF WOLFRUM. THEN AS HIS HIS COACH WAS CARRYING HIM OFF HE WAS POINTING OVER HIS COACHES SHOULDER AT WOLFRUM. WOLFRUM HAS BEATEN HIM IN TWO CONSECUTIVE TOURNAMENTS AND I GUESS BEARDON LOST HIS TEMPER . HE SHOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFIED FOR A THIRD PLACE MEDAL PERIOD

MG_Grievous

12-19-2005, 01:36 PM

haleybop

12-19-2005, 01:42 PM

ON THE CAPS sorry

Smith

12-19-2005, 01:46 PM

Marty is wrestling 112 not 103.

Greg

12-19-2005, 02:30 PM

Randy B. I think you can add your son to that list also. Very impressive all weekend. He and Justin's match was one of the better matches of the weekend in my opinion. Kyle is going to be hard to stop the rest of the season as is Justin. Marty Uehlin sure didn't surprise me. I thought he was impressive at Fall Brawl and I knew another month and half in the OP system would add even more polish. He should be ranked much higher in the next Class 4 poll. Joe Green has been a superstar for years and I didn't see anything to change my opinion this past weekend. One kid who should have placed was Patrick Kennedy. His, Joe's, and Matt's pool was one of the tougher pools any weight class in my opinion. It was too bad all three couldn't have come out of that pool. Patrick would have definitely placed top five. Patrick is tough that is for sure. He only lost to Joe Green 4-3.

obnoxio

12-19-2005, 03:18 PM

What's with the love-fest??? It's wrestling, beat someone up and move on to the next guy. All this honey-honey, sweety-sweety stuff is making me sick...

robo

12-19-2005, 03:26 PM

What's with the love-fest??? It's wrestling, beat someone up and move on to the next guy. All this honey-honey, sweety-sweety stuff is making me sick...

oooops....my mistake. They are the best kids I have ever seen. Should be four time state champs. Should make Missouri proud. Can anyone stop these guys?

burp.......burp.....urrrrr.....burp....

Gladiator Dad

12-19-2005, 03:54 PM

I would like to send out Congratulations to the Lee Summit Tournament Committee, I think for tournament this size you did a tremendous job in keeping it moving along and on schedule. I know it takes a tremendous amount of behind the scenes work in order for a tournament to run smooth and we always here about how bad this or that tournament was ran but it seems we overlook giving a Thank You to the people that actually pull off a good tournament.

LoseWeight-FeelGreat

12-19-2005, 07:09 PM

this question was asked earlier but was never answered...
Where was zach bailey, and what weight is he gonna be at this year?

fudge tunnel

12-19-2005, 07:37 PM

this question was asked earlier but was never answered...
Where was zach bailey, and what weight is he gonna be at this year?

I heard he quit. Word is, he went out for basketball....

JustAMom

12-19-2005, 08:16 PM

Very impressive tournament. It must have been great fun to watch. I am curious however, how the pools were determined. Some were extremely deep with 2 or more top notch wrestlers in them. Other pools look like they were seeded.

fowler

12-20-2005, 06:44 AM

Fudge I heard he transferred to St. Pius over the weekend and took Coach Smith with him. :smt102

fudge tunnel

12-20-2005, 07:04 AM

Fudge I heard he transferred to St. Pius over the weekend and took Coach Smith with him. :smt102

Funny thing is....I heard the same thing. I also heard that Zack is transferring the Apple Valley, MN too, so I don't know what to believe.

Smith

12-20-2005, 07:11 AM

Zack is really struggling with the fact that he can't crack the lineup right now. He is going to be ok but being a three time champ on JV is really rough for him. :lol:

RP-in-Nebraska

12-20-2005, 07:36 AM

The sad thing is that David Webber would most likely medal at state if he were the starter. 5th at LSX is quite an accomplishment. Check out some of the other names that took 5th: Reid Garcia, Kyle Rose, John Schmalz.

Smith

12-20-2005, 07:43 AM

David had a great tournament. He actually beat the 2nd place. Didn't get much help from the calls in his quarters match. He is a junior and still has a great future ahead of him.

Bob Pollock

12-20-2005, 08:07 AM

rider

12-20-2005, 05:05 PM

Did anyone see the Darrin Green vs Asa Schaeffer or the Ried Garcia vs Asa Scharffer match? Need Info

rider

12-20-2005, 05:59 PM

After seeing the Bolin and Green match wich was a good match 5-3 if I remember correctly, I was really looking forward to seeing Bolin and Garcia. But the pools were very diffrent this year.

IAWRFAN

12-21-2005, 07:52 AM

Hats off to Lees Summit for a very well ran tournament. Besides some of the officiating everything ran very well. The Iowa boys did pretty well, Creston had a nice team finish, and Centerville with 3 champs, not bad. Sebolt dominated as expected, he should do the same in our state. Good luck to all MO wrestlers on the remainder of the season. Your definately making an impact in the sport.