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02-12-2006, 06:19 PM
CLASS 1
103
Ryan Mango, Whitfield, Fr. (27-11)
Bret Stevenson, Plattsburg, Fr. (24-19)
Coty McDonald, Adrian, Fr. (24-5)
Kyle Harkins, Trenton, Jr. (23-12)
Josh Ghisalberti, Lexington, Jr. (31-5)
Matt Plodzien, Lutheran (St. Peters), So. (25-10)
Jon Neighbors, Marceline, Jr. (19-12)
Kurt Strope, Fatima, So. (27-7)
Kirk Luzano, Knob Noster, Fr. (31-3)
Cory Whitsell, Maysville, So. (17-16)
Tyler Woods, Hancock, Fr. (23-11)
Kayhan Karimi, Richmond, So. (11-10)
Kemper Kellerstrass, Cameron, Fr. (34-0)
Andrew Haston, Lafayette County, Jr. (16-17)
Ben Swallow, Maplewood-Richmond Hts., Fr. (14-8 )
Ronnie Bloss, Lathrop, Fr. (23-11)

112
Boone Lee, Centralia, Jr. (25-5)
Clint Krentz, Cameron, Jr. (19-14)
Craig McCrackin, North Platte, Sr. (30-5)
Shane Twenter, Boonville, Fr. (26-13)
Jake Wightman, Maysville, Sr. (28-9)
John Thompkins, Maplewood-Richmond Hts., Jr. (20-11)
Kris Luzano, Knob Noster, Jr. (29-8 )
Roger Elliott, Lexington, So. (22-18 )
Grady Grainger, Butler, So. (30-6)
Mitch Huntley, Polo, Fr. (22-11)
Mike Williams, Whitfield, So. (21-17)
Austin Paalhar, Marceline, Fr. (22-10)
Tommy Wilson, Plattsburg, Sr. (32-11)
Jacob O' Connor, Adrian, So. (15-17)
Luke Carmical, Brookfield, Fr. (28-7)
Matt Wright, Hancock, So. (27-10)

119
Andrew Scharf, Whitfield, Jr. (29-10)
Eric Edwards, Sherwood, So. (19-11)
Connor Kellerstrass, Cameron, So. (25-12)
Kyle Carver, Mid-Buchanan, Jr. (23-9)
Quincy Hawkins, Knob Noster, So. (24-7)
Shon Ball, McCluer South-Berkeley, So. (15-16)
Caleb VanLue, Lawson, So. (15-8 )
Josh Weaver, Marceline, Fr. (14-10)
Cody Hogan, Richmond, Jr. (33-3)
Klayton Book, South Holt, So. (16-13)
Lance LaPlant, Hancock, Jr. (31-4)
James Barker, Blair Oaks, Jr. (17-7)
Skyler Barron, Trenton, Jr. (29-5)
Ryan McCrackin, North Platte, Sr. (27-4)
Lawson Stevenson, Butler, Jr. (18-10)
Alonzo Pineiro, Centralia, Fr. (18-12)

125
Anthony Smith, McCluer South-Berkeley, Jr. (32-6)
Matt Jeske, Lexington, Sr. (18-22)
Derek Thorsen, Knob Noster, Sr. (26-9)
Nick Gardner, Brookfield, Sr. (32-4)
Jordan Adkins, Richmond, So. (18-21)
Shannon Griffin, Centralia, Sr. (18-10)
Trevor Stoll, Stanberry, Jr. (37-3)
Chad Twenter, Boonville, Sr. (21-17)
Derek Varns, Butler, So. (30-7)
Jeff Henke, Marceline, Sr. (21-13)
Brandon Weber, Lutheran (St. Peters), Jr. (32-2)
Kody Ward, Plattsburg, So. (28-11)
Blake Uthe, Cameron, Sr. (36-3)
Bryan Jones, Warsaw, So. (22-14)
Josh Drapekin, Whitfield, Jr. (20-12)
Matt Emry, Lawson, So. (15-8 )

130
Maurice Baker, McCluer South-Berkeley, Jr. (24-13)
Ryan Mallen, Cameron, So. (28-11)
Cy Brown, Lawson, Sr. (18-5)
Tony Demma, Knob Noster, So. (23-15)
Tyler Holloway, Brookfield, So. (31-1)
Justin Kea, Maplewood-Richmond Hts., Jr. (13-14)
Crees Forster, Lafayette County, Fr. (17-14)
Andrew Whitmore, Mid-Buchanan, Fr. (28-7)
Nevin Kopriva, Sherwood, Jr. (26-0)
Marshal Gonzalez, Lathrop, So. (16-20)
Tyler Downs, Lutheran (St. Peters), Sr. (32-2)
Tyler Shoemaker, Marceline, Jr. (24-12)
Clint Harbord, Plattsburg, Sr. (40-2)
Corey Strope, Fatima, Fr. (26-9)
Cody Gillenwater, Maryville, Sr. (35-2)
Victor Moellenhoff, Whitfield, So. (17-10)

135
Justin Waldman, Whitfield, Jr. (31-7)
Jared Lindsay, Butler, So. (9-5)
Justin Hendricks, Trenton, Sr. (32-4)
Michael Richardson, Richmond, So. (15-12)
Trent Zeikle, Lafayette County, Jr. (36-6)
Willy Williams, McCluer South-Berkeley, Fr. (11-10)
Brack Bates-DeFries, Lawson, Jr. (29-11)
Mick Niemeier, Marceline, Sr. (27-7)
Ryan Farwell, Plattsburg, Sr. (41-2)
Austin Evans, Brookfield, Fr. (27-13)
Andy Stock, Principia, Sr. (26-6)
Drew Harwood, Blair Oaks, So. (25-12)
Jake Bates, Cameron, Sr. (26-4)
Daniel Jennings, Lathrop, Sr. (26-12)
Chad Garber, Versailles, Sr. (29-5)
Pablo Ramos, Miller Career Academy, Sr. (8-2)

140
Jason Ott, Whitfield, Fr. (35-4)
Jobi Hambrick, Lexington, Fr. (17-20)
Steven Beiswinger, Boonville, Sr. (13-16)
Kody Hill, Trenton, So. (25-11)
Kenzie McClain, Plattsburg, Jr. (41-1)
Sterling Claybon, Miller Career Academy, Jr. (9-5)
Cody Selby, Gallatin, So. (23-12)
Justing Hough, Adrian, Jr. (21-11)
Jesse Hulett, Lafayette County, Sr. (38-3)
Tanner Archer, Maryville, So. (20-18 )
Deandre McBee, McCluer South-Berkeley, Sr. (31-7)
Kyle Baney, Lawson, Sr. (33-8 )
Tanner Smith, Maysville, So. (27-9)
Jacob Moore, Warsaw, Sr. (22-12)
Aaron Bergen, Lutheran (St. Peters), Sr. (33-2)
R.D. Lynch, North Platte, Sr. (26-7)

145
Andrew Rawlinson, Principia, Sr. (22-6)
JoJo Blanton, Brookfield, Jr. (13-15)
Damien Jones, Carrollton, Jr. (26-7)
Mitch Carroll, Knob Noster, Jr. (22-14)
Brian McClure, Cameron, Sr. (38-0)
Alex Bozarth, Missouri Military Acad., Jr. (11-10)
Jason Vinson, Adrian, Jr. (21-10)
Travis Taylor, North Platte, Jr. (22-7)
Tanner Hoeflicker, Lafayette County, Sr. (24-13)
Wes Gorham, Richmond, So. (22-15)
Mike Ramkhelawan, McCluer South-Berkeley, Sr. (29-10)
Zack Armstrong, Maysville, Sr. (20-12)
J.T. Russell, Lathrop, Jr. (33-2)
Curtis Russell, Diamond, So. (21-14)
Josh Moore, Marceline, Sr. (26-7)
Josh Zuke, Brentwood, Jr. (22-13)

152
Austin Smith, Whitfield, So. (11-11)
Troy Blank, Boonville, So. (12-23)
Alex Mallen, Cameron, Sr. (11-10)
Chris Baney, Lawson, Sr. (27-14)
Tyler Bise, Adrian, Jr. (34-0)
Nathan Beyer, Lutheran (St. Peters), So. (12-11)
Cortney Wheeler, Mid-Buchanan, Jr. (33-1)
Marc Maillett, Gallatin, Sr. (29-7)
Jay Jackson, Richmond, Jr. (26-14)
Zach Sampson, Trenton, Jr. (15-11)
Schuyler Prenger, Centralia, Sr. (15-16)
Cole Miller, Knob Noster, So. (28-8 )
Dustin Scheutz, South Holt, Sr. (31-0)
Nick Magnifico, Lexington, Sr. (25-11)
James Walker, Sherwood, So. (22-2)
Josh Nichols, McCluer South-Berkeley, Jr. (20-16)

160
Matt Beyer, Lutheran (St. Peters), Sr. (29-4)
Garrett Grider, Carrollton, Jr. (2-4)
Charlie Daleske, Warsaw, Sr. (33-2)
Brandon Tunks, Cameron, So. (23-14)
Earl Baxter, Plattsburg, So. (12-11)
John Phillips, Hancock, So. (12-18 )
Cliff Robertson, Maryville, Jr. (27-12)
Nathan Bright, Boonville, Jr. (31-6)
Cabot Long, Lafayette County, Sr. (14-1)
Riley Rains, Gallatin, Jr. (18-15)
Andrew Vetor, Brentwood, So. (17-16)
Matt Zumalt, Lexington, Jr. (20-20)
Andrew Whitsell, Maysville, Sr. (32-5)
Derek Monroe, Versailles, Sr. (29-7)
Chris Cheezom, Principia, Sr. (10-11)
John Gonzalez, North Platte, Sr. (28-11)

171
Pat Richardson, Hancock, Sr. (31-2)
Shane Anderson, South Holt, Sr. (16-7)
Jake O'Reilly, Plattsburg, Sr. (23-6)
Wesley McDonald, Adrian, Sr. (29-3)
Mitchell Briegel, Trenton, Sr. (34-3)
DeAnton Brown, Central (New Madrid Co.), Jr. (29-7)
Chris Wulff, Fatima, Sr. (19-3)
Michael Sollars, Lexington, Sr. (29-14)
Graham Padley, Lafayette County, Sr. (39-3)
Scott Minor, Carrollton, Jr. (16-18 )
Mike Hall, Lutheran (St. Peters), So. (13-8 )
Dallas Barrett, Tarkio, Sr. (31-8 )
Kris Warren, Richmond, Sr. (23-10)
Tim Simms, Butler, So. (17-16)
Ross Rosenbaum, Penney, Jr. (26-4)
Ron Meyer, Principia, Jr. (20-13)

189
Josh Wisdom, Centralia, Sr. (26-2)
Derek Bradley, Knob Noster, Sr. (22-14)
Clayton Baker, Gallatin, Sr. (26-5)
Kenny Cox, Mid-Buchanan, Jr. (24-8 )
Wyatt Jackson, Adrian, So. (24-11)
Tim Crump, Principia, Jr. (11-20)
Dusty Giles, Richmond, Sr. (27-11)
Patrick Jennings, Stanberry, Sr. (25-6)
Brandon Stark, Carrollton, Sr. (29-3)
Jerod Glasgow, Brookfield, Fr. (17-11)
Andrew Steward, Hancock, Jr. (20-14)
Cody Meyers, Lafayette County, Sr. (24-17)
Aaron Bridgeman, Maysville, Sr. (38-0)
Jake Blankenship, North Platte, Jr. (28-10)
Ryan Webb, Warsaw, Sr. (17-16)
Ryan Fowler, Central (New Madrid Co.), Jr. (24-10)

215
Mark Morse, Centralia, Jr. (7-9)
Ben Seba, Plattsburg, Jr. (16-25)
Travis Wiliams, Adrian, Jr. (17-1)
Ethan Tabbert, Trenton, So. (22-7)
Jarred Welch, Lawson, Sr. (20-1)
Dustin Fischer, Maplewood-Rich. Hts., So. (7-2)
Zach Lowenstein, Cameron, Sr. (29-10)
Nick Teeman, Butler, Sr. (26-9)
Jon Carr, Boonville, Sr. (38-0)
Ryan Hertzog, South Harrison, Sr. (17-2)
Nico Licavoli, Hancock, So. (8-7)
Josh Allen, Lathrop, Sr. (24-6)
Lee Bradley, Marceline, Sr. (26-5)
Andrew Minks, Lafayette County, Sr. (26-10)
Esteban Becerril, Brentwood, Sr. (26-4)
Matt Hollingsworth, Lexington, Sr. (28-14)

275
Nathan Richter, Lutheran (St. Peters), Sr. (14-8 )
Steven Marcott, Maysville, Sr. (27-9)
Preston Reeves, West Platte, Sr. (18-1)
Phillip Johnson, Lafayette County, Jr. (18-18 )
Zach Kinnison, Trenton, So. (23-6)
John Tolcou, Hancock, Sr. (26-11)
Zach Monroe, Versailles, Fr. (21-8 )
Zane Fields, Richmond, So. (24-15)
Kevin Vance, Holden, Sr. (22-3)
Dave Woehrman, North Platte, Jr. (28-10)
Justin Hinten, Centralia, Sr. (9-14)
Chris Siemens, Marceline, Sr. (30-5)
Cody Beck, Lexington, Jr. (37-0)
Chris Miles, Fatima, Sr. (16-7)
Dexter Partridge, Maryville, Sr. (27-10)
Hector Sada, Missouri Military Acad., Sr. (10-9)

MG_Grievous
02-12-2006, 06:33 PM
22 wrestlers with a non-winning record.

class1monkey
02-12-2006, 09:04 PM
What if those 22 wrestlers have a stacked schedule?

fudge tunnel
02-12-2006, 09:11 PM
1. This is class 1, there are no "stacked" schedules.
2. I don't think anyone is faulting the kids for having sub-.500 records, just that fact that they qualified. It's making a mockery of MO wrestling to have so many qualify for state who probably shouldn't be varsity.
3. Good luck to all who qualified

class1monkey
02-12-2006, 09:44 PM
Well i'm sure that post was a real self-esteem booster to all those kids who have sub-.500 records I'm sure they like to think of themselves as a "mockery"

tackle74
02-12-2006, 11:22 PM
there has always been kids with sub .500 and .500 records qualify for state, I would love to look back every 5 years and take a count does someone have state books from that far back??? I agree there are more sub .500 then there was in 3 class days but they have always existed in not small numbers. As far as Missouri wrestling being a joke how about Oklahoma, Nebraska and others with fewer school and 4 classes are you seriously saying Oklahoma restling is a joke. Lets be happy for the kids who EARNED a trip to Columbia and enjoy this coming week.

Clark_W_Griswald
02-12-2006, 11:32 PM
22 wrestlers with a non-winning record.

13 w/ non-winning record in Class 2

13 w/ non-winning record in Class 3

3 w/ non-winning record in Class 4

deepfat
02-12-2006, 11:49 PM
Well i'm sure that post was a real self-esteem booster to all those kids who have sub-.500 records I'm sure they like to think of themselves as a "mockery"

I agree 100%. A borderline classless post. Don't get me wrong, I'm a supporter of going back to 3 classes or even 2, but I wouldn't come out and say these kids who work hard despite sub-500 records are a mockery.

Good catch.

Booney
02-13-2006, 08:57 AM
what happened to the Galatin HWt

fudge tunnel
02-13-2006, 09:09 AM
but I wouldn't come out and say these kids who work hard despite sub-500 records are a mockery.


I never said these kids are a "mockery".......I said the MO state championships are becoming that because the level of standards has been lowered so much. It used to be a privilege to go to state.....now it seems more like a "right".

RP-in-Nebraska
02-13-2006, 09:29 AM
13 w/ non-winning record in Class 3



I actually counted 14 wrestlers with a LOSING record in class 3.

Ray-Pec - 3
Hannibal - 2
Eureka - 2
Holt - 2
Kearney - 1
Helias - 1
St. Charles West - 1
Ozark - 1
Fort Zumwalt North - 1

My opinion is that probably none of these kids would qualify in a 3 class system, however, notice that except for Ozark and Holt, the other 7 schools are top ten class 3 schools that wrestle tough K.C and St. Louis class 4 schools and tough tournaments throughout the year. No disrespect intended, but if these schools wrestled the same schedules as the central and southern MO schools did, then most of those kids with losing records would most likely have winning records. IMHO, it isn't necessarily a "disgrace" that kids qualify for state with a losing record. The real oddity is kids coming into districts with .800 winning percentages against weak competition and then not qualifying for state. The district tournament sorts this out very well.

The proposed system I like best is the 2 class system with 32 qualifiers in each weight. However, in the small class of this 2 class system, there would likely be nearly just as many kids with losing records as there is in class 1 and 2 combined right now.

Iowa80
02-13-2006, 09:48 AM
Booney;
Horvatin from Gallatin injured his knee during a match. Not sure how serious. Hope all is OK, as this is a very nice kid. Tough way to end a wrestling career. Good Luck to him.

DaNutt
02-13-2006, 09:58 AM
fudge tunnel Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject:

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1. This is class 1, there are no "stacked" schedules.
2. I don't think anyone is faulting the kids for having sub-.500 records, just that fact that they qualified. It's making a mockery of MO wrestling to have so many qualify for state who probably shouldn't be varsity.
3. Good luck to all who qualified


Fudge tunnel-

I will disagree with #2 here. It is not making a mockery of Mo wrestling at all. People can not see that in 3-5 yrs that it will strengthen the wrestling because it will bring more kids to wrestling. The strong programs now will seek out the good competition and will do so in the future. It makes available to some that would not have the access otherwise. The State atmosphere does things to wrestlers that if not having that excitement would not. The good wrestlers will still be the good wrestlers----the not so good wrestlers may in fact get the spark that improves them-case in point a Simpson from Richmond. Without opportunity no one can improve. I believe that those that believe that the state should go back to a one class or two class system are selfish. It is not about us (those who are out of school) but about those still in school. Those who are the cream of the crop will be cream no matter how many classes there are. Opportunity helps no matter what anyone thinks. I know everyone has their opinion and I have discussed this with many but in hearing everyones veiws I still can only see going to 4 classes as a positive and in no way a negative.
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dragon_fan
02-13-2006, 11:41 AM
what happened to the Galatin HWt


he injured his knee at districts and injury defaulted to bailey (cameron).

deepfat
02-13-2006, 12:37 PM
but I wouldn't come out and say these kids who work hard despite sub-500 records are a mockery.


I never said these kids are a "mockery".......I said the MO state championships are becoming that because the level of standards has been lowered so much. It used to be a privilege to go to state.....now it seems more like a "right".

Ok, Fudge, I apologize if I misread what you were trying to say. I agree that the 4 class system was a move in the wrong direction especially when 3 classes worked so well. I also think that the district/sectional format was better as well.

Booney
02-13-2006, 12:38 PM
yeah, I heard that it is probably his ACL, Was he beating Bailey at the time??

I also heard that the short Assistant coach from cameron winked and smiled at Bailey after it happened. If that is true, then that is just wrong!!!

J Ott
02-13-2006, 12:42 PM
Leader -

But the problem with that is if State is so watered down, it's not as much of a changing experience. I think that qualifying for state can impact a kid because it means that he has made it to an elite level of competition, which can give him the confidence and motivation to improve even more. So when qualifying for state loses its difficulty, I think it also loses its impact. I'm all for giving kids opportunities, but I don't think that we're giving them real opportunities by making the state tournament easy (or at least easier). In fact, I would argue that wrestling is inherently "uneasy," which is what makes it so great. It's supposed to be difficult to make it to state, and not everyone can do it. But that doesn't mean that the wrestlers who don't qualify don't have plenty of opportunities to benefit from the sport. There's nothing wrong with preserving the level of competition, and it seems pretty obvious to me that the 4 class system is failing to do so.

ACTRichar
02-13-2006, 02:32 PM
You're forgetting one thing about the losing records, and that is when did the wins happen. A wrestler that starts off 0-12, works his butt off all year and makes something of himself at Districts is just the kind of wrestler we want at state. A wrestler with an easy schedule and impressive 20-5 record that gets himself beat by the hard worker doesn't impress me.

RP-in-Nebraska
02-13-2006, 02:42 PM
.... the short Assistant coach from cameron....

Is that Nixdorf?

michael moudy
02-13-2006, 03:47 PM
it could have been hopkins i didn't see it but the way there coaches were acting it could have been any one of them. i heard that the cameron coaches were acting like fools at the seeding meeting and they didn't impress me friday or saturday. during a match between somebody from gallatin and cameron (sorry don't remember who was wrestling) i saw hopkins tell another cameron coach to tell the gallatin wrestlers to back away from the mat because you could only have two coaches in the corner, wich that was fine the only problem was cameron had at least 3 and almost always had 4 coaches in the corner.

district 4 needs to find some where else to hold there tournament because camerons gym is way to small for 16 schools.

captainH44
02-13-2006, 04:02 PM
district 4 needs to find some where else to hold there tournament because camerons gym is way to small for 16 schools.

I agree, There is hardly enough room for the wrestlers. Where are the fans supposed to sit?

Booney
02-13-2006, 04:40 PM
I dont know who the coach was, I just heard about it, and also heard that he was acting very arrogant, word must travel fast because this was coming from someone at District 3
I also heard that he was making faces at the brookfield coach behind his back

MG_Grievous
02-13-2006, 04:41 PM
I also heard that he was making faces at the brookfield coach behind his back

Doss is making friends everywhere. :lol:

Booney
02-13-2006, 04:43 PM
I dont care who it is, you dont do that, that is very unprofessional as a coach, you have to be an adult and not act like a child

MG_Grievous
02-13-2006, 04:44 PM
I don't care who it is either, but I found your post quite amusing.

Funny thing is, the coach who he did that to isn't professional either. His PMs prove it. :roll:

Booney
02-13-2006, 05:00 PM
what do you mean??

MG_Grievous
02-13-2006, 05:05 PM
Well the thread was deleted. But he does not need to be around kids.

Rod Thomas
02-14-2006, 07:18 AM
just my thoughts on a few topics that are being discussed


1. "district 4 needs to find some where else to hold there tournament because camerons gym is way to small for 16 schools."

ok where? Cameron has a central location for all schools, hotels for those that need them, and since recent renovations, plenty of room. This year was much better than last. What other schools did you have in mind?


2. "I dont know who the coach was, I just heard about it, and also heard that he was acting very arrogant, word must travel fast because this was coming from someone at District 3
I also heard that he was making faces at the brookfield coach behind his back"

ok, you "heard" these things. I've "heard" your an idiot, I don't know you. I don't know if it's true. It's just what I've "heard". Did you ever play telephone when you were a kid, one kid whispers something then it goes around the room, by the time it gets to the end the original statement is all messed up. The message gets messed up from person to person, so unless you saw these things yourself, quit trying to bash other coaches with something you don't know is true.


3. "i saw hopkins tell another cameron coach to tell the gallatin wrestlers to back away from the mat because you could only have two coaches in the corner,"

You saw this......I am guessing from across the gym, how do you know it was about coaches? Do you think that since the event was held in Cameron, the cameron coaches are trying to keep the wrestlers and other fans away from the mats, so people that are in the stands can see?

PROFESSOR PAIN
02-14-2006, 09:47 AM
HEY... GUYS GUESS WHAT I SAW/HEARD/I DON'T KNOW....

THERE WAS THIS ONE COACH, IN DISTRICT 3 I THINK, AND HE WAS DRINKING A PEPSI... I HATE PEPSI

THERE WAS THIS OTHER COACH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE FROM, BUT HIS FACE TURNED RED 3 TIMES... NO WAIT, MAYBE 4

AND THIS ONE COACH... WINKED, HEAVEN FORBID, AT HIS WRESTLER DURING A TOUGH MATCH

DID I TELL YOU ABOUT THE COACH THAT HUGGED HIS WRESTLER AFTER A CRUCIAL FINALS MATCH (WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO??)



--- it's said that the cameron coaches are acting like children.

i just don't get it
:roll:

RP-in-Nebraska
02-14-2006, 09:58 AM
PROFESSOR,

WHERE DID THE CAPITAL LETTERS GO?

:-D

PROFESSOR PAIN
02-14-2006, 10:07 AM
ALL BETTER NOW

RP-in-Nebraska
02-14-2006, 10:32 AM
Yes, all is normal in the realm of PAINdom.

PROFESSOR PAIN
02-14-2006, 02:56 PM
:-D

Booney
02-15-2006, 10:24 AM
Well, when it comes from 10 or more so people then there has to be some truth in it.
I agree with the gym issue at cameron, if I remember right, that gym is tiny. Bethany would have been a good place but then again you have to worry about the location and motel issue.

dragon_fan
02-15-2006, 10:45 AM
for a long time a few years ago, the whole population thought the world was flat......maybe there was some truth to that too.

Booney
02-15-2006, 10:55 AM
Yeah, but that was a theory because no one had explored or been far enough to explore. In this situation people have. Never said it was true for sure, just think that it is funny because Cameron has a great program and some people have to put a red target on them because of arrogance

dragon_fan
02-15-2006, 12:03 PM
i was just trying to make a point that just because alot of people say something is true don't mean there's any validity to it. maybe those 10 people heard it from the same source. maybe like your "cousin" or whoever it was that heard that a certain wrestlers staph looked like a volcano, after he had been cleared to wrestle. you sure seem to be right in the middle of all the rumors around here.
i don't see any humor in the situation at all.

Booney
02-15-2006, 12:42 PM
would your initials happen to be BL

dragon_fan
02-15-2006, 02:27 PM
uh no.

RP-in-Nebraska
02-15-2006, 02:43 PM
Can I play?

How about QZ? Are those your initials?

oldtimer
02-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Can I play?

How about QZ? Are those your initials?

Don't you mean QS? Quin Snyder

RP-in-Nebraska
02-15-2006, 02:56 PM
Don't you mean QS? Quin Snyder

Heck No! He is nothing but a memory.

dragon_fan
02-15-2006, 09:30 PM
haha...you're both wrong.

MG_Grievous
02-22-2006, 06:51 PM
Since a certain coach became a bar-brawling internet private messaging bada$$( :lol: :roll: ), I figured I would put these numbers out there just for him.



Here is how the 20 state qualifiers with losing records did at state:

Wins: 7
Losses: 40

75% of them went 0-2.


Flame away, nOObs. I'll take a tally.

bluedevil
02-22-2006, 07:23 PM
Which coach??

Adonis
02-23-2006, 09:27 AM
Isn't it time to grow up? I know I have better things to do than to repeatedly post negative remarks about coaches on the message board. Everyone got the point like two weeks ago.

MG_Grievous
02-23-2006, 09:43 AM
There's one.

Adonis
02-23-2006, 09:47 AM
that didn't take long!

MG_Grievous
02-23-2006, 09:49 AM
You still able to legally drive? :lol:

Adonis
02-23-2006, 10:01 AM
I'm throwing in the towel (couldn't beat the last post). :(

houndpound
02-23-2006, 08:02 PM
hmm mg play nice lol :smt068 :smt117