CAN ANYONE STOP SOBOL AT 189?

[wrestler60]

Can anyone stop Sobol at 189?

[MG_Grievous]

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[Roscoe Russkie]

I know Sobol and Winn are different classes but have they wresteled ?

And if they did what was the score?

[wrestlefan19]

a semi-related question:
can anyone stop Sobol on the football field?

[wrestlingstud103]

sobols going to 215

[preceptor]

do not mean to disrespect Sobol, he is a very good wrestler but I do not think that a match between them would be that close. Winn has big time experience at big time tournaments.

[oxman]

I had the pleasure and honor of coaching Mike Sobol the last 2 years....
He had a very close loss to Taylor Moore at State last year....
Taylor also had extensive National and big-time tournament experience....
I think it would be unfair to presume that the match would not be close....
Just my humble opinion....................
8)

[New beat]

I was going to say (in response to the original question) injury, illness, officiating and coaching, but with Ox coaching him, you can scatch that excuse.

[T.D.C.Dad]

Does any one know if Wolk is staying at 171 or bumping up?

[the_champ]

I have wrestled both and i say winn wins everytime... just my opion

[RP-in-Nebraska]

just my opion

What's an opion? :smt017 :smt102

[wrestlefan19]

:? I think you smoke it

[the_champ]

you guys know i meant opinion. you guys crack me up finding spelling errors in peoples comments. it is probably bent up frustration from your very successful wrestling carreers.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Me, frustrated? Absolutely!

We’re just messin’ with the new guy. Come and join the fun on the off-topic discussion boards.

[T.D.C.Dad]

Hey champ don't let them slow you down they've been bustin my chop's for a couple years now on my spelling and grammer. Here's a helpful link for all you that wernt spelling bee champs.

http://www.m-w.com/

[fudge tunnel]

Don't need it....

[T.D.C.Dad]

Which leads into my next post .

I wonder how many people don't post on Mo. Wrestling .com because of a select few people have taken it on them selves to ridicule and chastise any one on this sight for spelling error, punctuation, or incorrect grammer. How many people may of had something to add but just did'nt feel like getting hasseled. Proper spelling and grammer are very important .But If you get what a person is saying why do some people act like your post has less meaning than theirs because of simple mistake.

[T.D.C.Dad]

You snunk one in on me Fudge. Even though we have went around on this subjuct. That wasn't directed at you. Of course I did mention champ so I should of guessed you would respond. :)

[RP-in-Nebraska]

A few spelling mistakes and bad grammar doesn’t bother me too much. Everybody makes a mistake every once-in-a-while. However, those that laughably attempt to be cool or funny while bastardizing the English language with misspelled words and phrases that only they and their equally illiterate friends can understand are very irritating. Honestly, sometimes I’ll read a post by someone on here 5 or 6 times to try to determine what they were saying or intended to say. More times than not I’ll figure it out, but occasionally, I will have no idea what the intent was.

Now a word like “opinion” has been misspelled on here several times as “opion”– I think it is an optical illusion or something. I knew exactly what Champ meant and I was just teasing him. But, proper grammar, spelling, syntax, verb conjugation, pronoun use, verb tense, etc. goes a long way in allowing your post to be read accurately and, consequently, getting your point across.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

You snunk one in one me Fudge.

That’s how Fudge’s wife got pregnant! Him sneakin' one in. :-D

[T.D.C.Dad]

I knew you where just teasing but I Don't think The_Champ did. Which is what I was getting at. Some of these highschool wrestler skins arnt as thick as your's and mine. I also think derogatory remarks deter them from posting information they have to add. Which I really like reading and in my OPION :wink: that is what this sight is all about.
Any way have agood day RP

[oxman]

You have never heard me complain or criticize anyone's spelling, punctuation, or grammar....
Everyone has their own approach........style..etc....
Sometimes, I agree with RP.....I simply cannot make sense out of a post....at all..
I have no idea whatsoever what they are trying to say.....I just laugh and go on.... :)
TDCDad...I have no trouble understanding your posts......
8)

[cardsfsc]

There's something wrong if the fear of ridicule is going to stop you from posting your opinions. I don’t care if it’s a kid or an adult, post your opinions, have the courage to stand up for what you believe in. Just understand that no matter what you post, someone’s going to have a different opinion… and more then a few of those people are going to tell you about it. Be open minded enough to realize that most are poking good natured fun…there is really just one person that knows everything and has the right opinion on everything (Me). Just my opinion though. I will say Huck and Hopsing are right on the money with most as well…therefore, if any of those guys call you a dumb@#$....u’s prolly is won.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Ahhhh fooey……What do you know!? :-D

[the_champ]

Hey, I understand you guys were just joking, and i was just trying to give it back. No harm no foul.

[The Dancing Yiddish Clown]

You all need spiritual guidance.

[chickenman]

I know TDC comments are valid. I know that this post will get me attacked. Consider a coaches wifes comments from Adrian. The regulars here blasted with out mercy. I am sure she and her husband are now convinced that they are not welcomed. Another lady commented about a child who had been illegally arrested and ask advice. The regulars on this forum laughed at her. Someone recently ask about 103 to 125 classes and was told to watch himself.

This is a social club. Outsiders are not welcome. There are snippets of information that are interesting but if you are not in with the regulars, absolutely keep your thoughts to yourself.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

I don’t think that is very accurate. The “regulars” blast away at morons like tRage whose very first post on this site said “wtf kinda name is fudge tunnel? sounds kinda gay...i can almost bet yer gay”. We sometimes tease newcomers in jest but most people can tell the difference. Most of the heckling and teasing is done between the regulars themselves.

As far as the woman who was asking advice about her kid that was illegally arrested, I thought we all had good, instructive comments and advice for her and everybody was sympathetic – nobody laughed at her that I can recall.

As far as Class 1 Monkey posting in the class 1 forum asking about 103 to 125, the regulars pretty much left him alone. Fudge posted a “rolling eyes” post because that was about the fifth post that generically asked about who would be at which weight class – such a general question can’t yet be answered before the season starts. Zone was just giving some helpful advice and MG’s “spank yourself” comment was in response to his name being mentioned. Later, in other threads, he had some great input and had a civil conversation with Fudge.

I was not a regular poster when Mrs. Banning made her posts so I don’t even know what she said. I do know that she threatened Jonathan and this site with legal action which made people here more irritated with her. But, as a result, the off-topic got cleaned up a little bit. Other than that, I don’t know enough to comment on the situation.

In general, I don’t think the regulars are that bad to anybody who wants to make a legitimate comment. The_Champ knew I was joking with him.

[preceptor]

do you mean knew?

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Excellent point! That is precisely the reason that I posted my comments about occasional spelling mistakes earlier in this thread - because we all make them.

[preceptor]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[TTcat]

:lol: this conversation went from Sobol to spelling, pretty fast. :lol:

[SILVER EAGLE]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :roll: Did someone say wrestling?

[T.D.C.Dad]

Thats what I say more wrestling less opion's :wink: 7 Day's to the Fall Brawl wonder who's showing up at 160 ,171 ,189 ?

Like big John says. LETS GET IT ON!!! :smt118

[wrestlingfanatic1]

I also empathize with T.D.C. Dad and chickenman. Mrs Banning's feelings got hurt and she was then kicked into oblivion. I do believe she perhaps incited a fight, but extreme overkill would be a complete understatement.

I remember the lady with the concern for the child. This concern was shared by all of Joplin. This forum corrected her English, made many snide comments, and did have a good laugh. There were definately people who showed concern. I am sure this was appreciated but she pretty much quit posting also.

I really enjoy MissouriWrestling.com. I read it all the time. But sometimes things get out of hand. Because of this, many people are like me and stay out of the "social club". The forum really does belong to the regulars.

[wrestlingfanatic1]

Of course, that is just my opion.

[the_champ]

Hey man i like all the talk about not making fun of people and then you take a stab at me.... I am being serious i really think it is funny. :lol:

[RP-in-Nebraska]

I remember the lady with the concern for the child. This concern was shared by all of Joplin. This forum corrected her English, made many snide comments, and did have a good laugh. There were definately people who showed concern. I am sure this was appreciated but she pretty much quit posting also..

This is totally false. I just went back and checked all four of the topics titled "Terrorism" which were created by Proudmama in each of the "Class" threads. Every single "regular" was extremely sympathetic and helpful. Absolutely nobody belittled her. The only person that was somewhat disrespectful was a police officer by the name of "Izzy" who ended up getting blasted for his "police can do no wrong" attitude. The only spelling correction was between two regulars when Darth Bader corrected Vanilla Gorilla's spelling. Go back and read those topics and you'll see that MG, Fudge, myself, and the rest of the regulars were being as helpful as possible.

[fudge tunnel]

MG, Fudge, myself.......were being as helpful as possible.

......now that's scary.

[obnoxio]

I'm thinking I wasn't very nice to them folks...but that's because they weren't very nice to us city folks in the movie "Deliverance."

[obnoxio]

oink. oink.

[proudmama]

On a more positive note:

The City of Joplin has agreed to pay $16,000 to the family of a boy nearly a year after two city police officers, Ron Buchanan and Charles Ward, allegedly violated the child's civil rights.
The agreement, filed in Jasper County Court, shows that both the city and Jamie and Jane Karns, of Joplin, the boy's parents, did not wish to pursue a civil lawsuit, and that the cash settlement will effectively end all possible litigation against the city related to the November, 2004, arrest of the then 11 year old boy.

These are the first two paragraphs of the front page of the Joplin Globe. The Karns were told that they could do much better but they are extremely good people and realy did not care about the money. I wish the Karns family well and hope everyone here does as well.

[proudmama]

I know! I mispelled a word.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

I'm glad something happened in this ordeal but does this mean that the two officers were given a proverbial slap on the wrist and nothing more? IF so, that sucks.

[T.D.C.Dad]

I never did like it when people refered to Police Officers as Pig's but I think these two deserve that label.

[proudmama]

I do not know if it is true but the word on the street is that Officer Ward was suspended for a short period of time and Officer Buchanon was demoted. Again this is the rumor mill with out substantiation.

As many of you know, if a policeman breaks the law in Joplin, everything is kept secret. I do not pretend to understand, it is just the way Joplin is run.

[obnoxio]

Glad its settled.

I wouldn't have settled for anything less than a college fund but hey, I'm just a clown.

[proudmama]

I would agree with you obnoxio, but the Karns would have settled for nothing. They just wanted the right action to be taken. It was not so they stayed at it. I am very proud of them.

[MG_Grievous]

Did someone mention Susan Banded?

I love this e-mail, but she's the "C-word":



Jonathan,

Just when I thought it was safe to go on to the missouriwrestling.com
message boards to get some great stories about the action in high school
state championships from the past weekend, I come to find out:



* Securityguard4u is mouthing off about shooting aliens and
accidentally shooting members of his family. He also continues to make
reference to his nutsack (oh come on, enough- is the guy going through
puberty?)

* MG Grievous is a total sexist and the board promotes his
discriminatory views by allowing:

o A cartoon of a busty woman (right there in your face)

o His demeaning comments to/about women: "Some people just ramble on.
And you're a woman, no wonder". Let me remind you that not all of your
participants in the forum are men. The women of the wrestling community are
generally siblings or moms. The siblings have to read the insults hurled at
their brothers who I am sure they love and admire. The moms are the ones
who volunteered in the youth clubs, drove the kid to practice, worked at the
high school fundraisers for the team, organized the club tournaments and
worked tables, concessions, etc. - I think you get the picture. We should
be able to sign on without the vulgarity and discrimination that is
constantly aimed at us. It is almost as if we are walking into the boys
locker room or a frat house.



Come on, Jonathan. Let's get this site cleaned up. I am blind copying my
attorney on this message for several reasons:



1. I use my name in my posts. An open insult directed at me could be
grounds for a slander or libel suit.



2. As administrator of the message board, you are in fact condoning the
discrimination directed at the women who post and view the board. This is
analogous to sexual harassment in the workplace. I would appreciate it if
you could get the message out to some of the offenders or edit their posts
until they get the picture.



Although I am signing my name to this message, I would appreciate that my
name not be used as the complainer as was done recently with the wife of
someone who apparently was getting slandered. I do not relish the thought
of getting backlash from some of these folks, especially since I will be
involved with high school wrestling soon and most of these jerks post more
on the high school class sites than the kids' site.



Thank you very much for your cooperation,



Susan Banning

Communications Coordinator

Bonhomme Wrestling Club



Office: 636-458-0003

Mobile: 314-852-1006



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She has some serious problems, especially writing all of that.

One more for the road: :smt075

BREAK OUT THE BOBBY BREWSTER(AND WIFE) EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MG_Grievous]

BREAK OUT THE BOBBY BREWSTER(AND WIFE) EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you insist.... :twisted:

[Beowulf]

This is the email she sent me.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/persephonecass/thJess-short.gif

[MG_Grievous]

How am I supposed to hit the hole when she keeps moving that fast?

[Denmom]

i am innocent. I am innocent. Do NOT include me in the people who have mispelled words, or posts that make no sense, or degrading posts, or any of them. I am INNOCENT.



Would anyone like to speak to my lawyer.

[MG_Grievous]

Would anyone like to speak to my lawyer.

Hell no.

You get service for free.

[Beowulf]

Try this one.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/persephonecass/ththcharliesangels.gif

:smt119

[Hopsing]

What the heck? This woman's got to be an idiot...get a freaking grip on yourself woman.

[MG_Grievous]

BREAK OUT THE BOBBY BREWSTER(AND WIFE) EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://missouriwrestling.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4128

:smt023

[SG4U]

cAN I BE IN THE SOCIAL CLUB, AKA: MW.COM rEGULARS?

[Beowulf]

You likey?

http://www.syruss.com/people/images/people013.gif

[SG4U]

i'D LIKE TO STICK MY sHOTGUN IN THAT.

[4merblkcat189]

I HAVE PERSONALLY WRESTLED FOR COACH OX AND ON THE SAME TEAM WITH SOBOL WHEN HE WAS AT 160 AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE WILL PLACE FIRST AT BOTH 189 OR 215 HIS ONLY COMPETITION WOULD BE WOLK FRO STE. GEN. THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS AND THEY AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT MATCH

[Scars]

Did the captial letters make you feel important there?

[4merblkcat189]

acctually the didnt i just wanted to get my point across that noone can stand in Sobol's way except maybe Wolk but i dont think they will even be in the same class

[Scars]

Thats a pretty bold statement to make before the season even starts. I'm sure Sobol appreciates you comments...

[4merblkcat189]

Although he did suffer a knee injury a week ago in a football game which he had to have an mri on i have yet to hear the results about it though... based on his health im sure he will dominate the state tourney...plus i know that he wouldnt want to do anything to jepordize his football scholarship

[z-mann]

He is fine. MRI results were that he sprained his knee. No damage and might even play in the game this week.

[4merblkcat189]

Where did you hear about that z-mann?

[z-mann]

ok, update. His doctor today said the results of the mri show some ligament damage and as of now he is out for the season. I am not sure if they are going to seek a second opinion. I hope to have more info after practice tommorrow.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Out for the football season or wrestling season?

[fudge tunnel]

as of now he is out for the season. .

That sucks.

[4merblkcat189]

I spoke with Sobols brother he is out for the year. There is some damage to his acl and he doesnt want to mess it up worse and ruining his football scholarship... so all the 189 pounders in class 2 lucked out this year

[fudge tunnel]

I spoke with Sobols brother he is out for the year. There is some damage to his acl and he doesnt want to mess it up worse and ruining his football scholarship... so all the 189 pounders in class 2 lucked out this year

Well, that answers the thread topic question.

[zone]

So the answer is Football. :-x

[z-mann]

Well, it appears that he has gotten a second opinion. There might not be any acl damage at all and he could in fact wrestle this season.

[4merblkcat189]

that is awsome... i herd he was walking around on it ok so i couldnt believe that he tore his acl but i wasnt for sure. i just hope he is 100% come state time

[proudmama]

For those who have followed this story. The officer that arrested 11 year old Alex Karns because of a conflict that he (Alex) had with the officer's son has been fired. Officer Ward, I am sure will appeal.

The city will not release information as to why Officer Ward was fired. But I am elated that he is gone.

[T.D.C.Dad]

Boy that was along time coming but at least they finally did the right thing.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

Bye-bye, Wardy! :smt006

[wrestler#1]

Does anyone know for sure if sobol is out for wrestling season?

[4merblkcat189]

he was tole that he has a torn acl but then he is going to get a second opinion because he doesnt think it is that bad so he should be going back next week to find out for sure to see if he can wrestle or not but like i said before if there is any chance of long term damage im sure he would take the year off to make sure he is healed before he starts football in college

[z-mann]

As far as we know he is not out for the season. He has another meeting with his Dr and at that time since the sweeling has gone down they will decide if he needs to get it scoped or not. As of now he is in therapy every day and lifting as well. It also looks like when he comes back it will be at 215. Not sure if he will stay there or not.

[wrestler#1]

Does anyone have a update on sobols knee?

[z-mann]

Not yet. Should know for sure sometime next week.

[wrestler#1]

does anyone have an update on sobol?

[4merblkcat189]

I haven't herd anything for a while I believe he is going to try and be back by the deadline mid way through the season but if his knee is'nt ready by then I doubt he will risk his scholarship

[wardy]

Please dont confuse me with Officer Ward.

[RP-in-Nebraska]

I didn't/won't. I just decided to give officer Ward a nickname not realizing there was a user by the name of Wardy.

[wardy]

I know you werent. Just clarifying. Its all good.

[z-mann]

Sobol got cleared to practice today. Should be in the room tommorrow. Not sure what weight class he will be at. He did look chubby. Might even be a bit over 215 for a few weeks. :lol:

[Braveheart56]

So is 189 out of the Question?

[Hannibal King]

great that he's back... Hate to see great athletes miss a season due to injury... As far as where he will wrestle... I don't know, would you rather take on Tanner Wolk @189 or Dakota Greenhaw @ 215? Hmm.. no brainer in my opinion..

[fudge tunnel]

... I don't know, would you rather take on Tanner Wolk @189 or Dakota Greenhaw @ 215? Hmm.. no brainer in my opinion..

I think I'd rather take on a kid who's only placed once (5th) versus a kid who's placed 5-1-2. That's a no-brainer.

[legrider]

I wouldn't mind seeing Gibbs from Moberly jump up to 215. He has been jumping up to help the team some this year while Jorgeson(SP?) was out. He will give Sobol or Wolk a handful no matter what weight he goes. Just my opinion. I have been known to talk to myself, to bad I never listen. :smt084

[wrestle4life]

Sobol and Gibbs wrestled for 3rd at state last year where Sobol handed Gibbs his butt on a silver platter displaying 9 to 0. Who knows though, that was last year.

[legrider]

Last year I do believe is in the past. With Sobol being out for the majority of the year and coming back will definitely have an impact. One thing you might want to remember is Charlie will hold nothing back and you won't hear excuses like (sick, missed a lot of time, or injury) no matter what happens. Hardly understand how a 9-0 score is labeled as "Butt on a Platter" that should be reserved for teching a wrestler before you pin him. I will go on to say that with Sobol winning 9-0 Sobol still didn't feel comfortable, because one mistake and losing 9-0 could turn into a win by pin. Happens all the time when great wrestlers are wrestling.

Is State here yet? Can't wait to see Page Arena. (oops I forgot it isn't that anymore). :o

[Hannibal King]

[quote="Hannibal King":8d3a1]... I don't know, would you rather take on Tanner Wolk @189 or Dakota Greenhaw @ 215? Hmm.. no brainer in my opinion..

I think I'd rather take on a kid who's only placed once (5th) versus a kid who's placed 5-1-2. That's a no-brainer.[/quote:8d3a1]

My Point exactly my friend

[stewie]

The only 189lb wrestler in the state that would give Wolk a match is Deron Winn. And I still think Wolk would win. Sobol better stay at 215lb.

[fudge tunnel]

The only 189lb wrestler in the state that would give Wolk a match is Deron Winn. And I still think Wolk would win.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[stewie]

Coming from someone who's residence is retardsandwichville I could see where you would laugh.

[T.D.C.Dad]

Just got first look at Dakota Greenhaw tonight , big, mean and scary and a very good wrestler pretty much covers it

[michaelsmom]

Hey, Fudge Tunnel, are you from Branson 'cause I saw a guy that looked just like your picture wearing a Branson shirt at Harrisonville today?.!

:o :D

[fudge tunnel]

Hey, Fudge Tunnel, are you from Branson 'cause I saw a guy that looked just like your picture wearing a Branson shirt at Harrisonville today?.!

:o :D

Ummmm............yes. I'm from Branson.

[Carl Brutananadilewski]

Coming from someone who's residence is retardsandwichville I could see where you would laugh.

I think Fudge Tunnel was laughing at your comment because Winn would not only beat Wolk, he would embarrass him.

[michaelsmom]

Okay...........I guess that was you. The picture made you famous, I should have asked for an autograph!

[wrestlefan19]

Coming from someone who's residence is retardsandwichville I could see where you would laugh.

I think Fudge Tunnel was laughing at your comment because Winn would not only beat Wolk, he would embarrass him.
I doubt he would embarass him unless im mistaken Winn lost last yr to Moore of Oak Grove and in the state finals Moore had a controversial match with wolk and barely beat him....they seem pretty evenly matched to me...

[stewie]

I guess the population of retardsandwichville is now 2. We'll never know. But my money would be on Wolk.

[Hannibal King]

Coming from someone who's residence is retardsandwichville I could see where you would laugh.

I think Fudge Tunnel was laughing at your comment because Winn would not only beat Wolk, he would embarrass him.

I'd love to see that match.. Wolk vs Winn... I would love to see two big guys with that much talent and speed battle it out... As far as saying he would embarass Tanner Wolk, you gotta be kidding, you can never say a kid like Wolk or Winn could ever be embarassed by an opponent.. If I were you I'd be embarassed because that was a stupid comment from an obvious biased person who has probably never watched Tanner Wolk wrestle..

[stillman]

I don't know, I watched Winn tech fall Cauley in the finals last year and watched Wolk wrestle at Cape the last four years. I think Cauley and Wolk have approximately the same style. I would give the advantage to Winn. I wouldn't say he would embarass him though, both wrestlers are very good.

Just my opinion.

[Hannibal King]

Yeah its impossible to say I guess.. you never know.. they both lost close to Moore from Oak Grove last year but we will never know what would happen if they wrestled (unfortunately).. I just don't understand why people get on here and down wrestlers saying that they would get embarassed when nobody could possibly know something like that, I don't mind opinions but stupidity is a hard thing for me to tolerate

[Warren Haynes]

back to Mr. Sobol, does anyone from Herky read this site. I would really like to know if the kid will be able to wrestle this year. I enjoy watching him a great deal. Gotta pull for all the kids from Jeff County (well except northwest :D). Any update on his status would be appreciated.

[oxman]

I spoke to Mike about a week ago. He said he would be back in action soon...
My GUESS is the week after SEMO Conference.
8)

[Hannibal King]

Sobol wrestled this weekend at the Owensville tournament and went 5-0 (@215)

[z-mann]

He did wrestle this past weekend and did win. He is going to wrestle the is upcoming weekend as well in the Semo conf tourny. He is a bit sore and we are trying to take our time with him. Our goal is to have him ready and at 100% for dist/sect.

[Braveheart56]

Who would win between sobol and greenhaw? Any predictions

[C2Rankingforfun]

Look at the rankings.

[Hannibal King]

Look at the rankings.

couldn't disagree with you more.. even with no knees Mike Sobol wins the match

[fudge tunnel]

Look at the rankings.

couldn't disagree with you more.. even with no knees Mike Sobol wins the match

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